From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
"Derrick Stolee" <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] doc: avoid using the gender of other people
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 11:30:59 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <60c8d5c39ef39_1296f20847@natae.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94848796-1a7f-e1d2-fcf7-5e6f5f361f2a@gmail.com>
Derrick Stolee wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 4:28 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > Some people have a problem with using a female reviewer or a female
> > developer as an example, and since this is an irrelevant detail, let's
> > say goodbye to our illustrative female colleagues.
>
> I find this message to be snarky and underhanded instead of
> actually describing the goals at hand.
But it is accurate.
I have no problem when I read a text that uses a female reviwer as an
illustration. Apparently you do, and presumably others.
> Citing the reason as stated is _not_ the purpose of these
> gender-neutral recommendations.
I believe the purpose is to tailor the wording to you.
> Instead, a message such as this could apply:
>
> Using gendered pronouns for an anonymous person applies a
> gender where none is known, and further excludes readers
> who do not use gendered pronouns.
It doesn't exclude the readers who do not use genedered pronouns.
Anna--a Finnish reader--may not use gendered pronouns herself, that
doesn't mean she automatically would have a problem when reading "she"
or "he", nor that she would feel excluded.
This patch is not for Anna--who has no problem reading an illustration
in English which uses a female colleague as illustration--this patch is
for you.
Cheers.
--
Felipe Contreras
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-15 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-11 20:28 [PATCH 0/2] Avoid gender pronouns Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 20:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] doc: avoid using the gender of other people Felipe Contreras
2021-06-15 13:28 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-15 16:30 ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2021-06-11 20:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] comments: avoid using the gender of our users Felipe Contreras
2021-06-15 13:31 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-15 14:16 ` Paul Smith
2021-06-15 16:39 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-15 16:36 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-12 1:17 ` [PATCH 0/2] Avoid gender pronouns Bagas Sanjaya
2021-06-12 1:39 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-12 23:24 ` Robert Karszniewicz
2021-06-13 7:15 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-14 1:27 ` Junio C Hamano
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