From: Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@linux.dev>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@shopee.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Baoquan He <baoquan.he@linux.dev>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-next] mm/swap: free swap cache folios the zap path gave up on
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 16:42:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <62d17959-d695-4fec-a87b-8eadaaf995a8@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7D50X47JFsTnF2-jYGv7i-Nd3WhQLK-TJGy4XkhMQU4OQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 10/16/26 11:05 AM, Kairui Song wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2026 at 5:10 PM Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@linux.dev> wrote:
>> From: Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@shopee.com>
>>
>> On our production hosts we saw swap cache only pages keep growing for days:
>> on a box with a 500 GiB swap partition, 250 GiB of RAM and 250 GiB of
>> swap slots were held by folios that no process mapped any more, charged
>> to cgroups whose workloads had long exited. The only way to get them
>> back was swapoff, and with other services actively swapping on the
>> same host that is not an option.
> Hi, thanks for the report.
>
>> Such a slot has swap count 0 and an unmapped folio pinned in the swap
>> cache, left there after a process exited or did MADV_DONTNEED. No page
>> table holds its swap entry any more, so nothing comes back for the
>> slot; LRU reclaim drops it eventually, and the allocator only reclaims
>> such slots once swap is half full. The growth stopped exactly there:
>> at 50% of the device, where vm_swap_full() becomes true.
> Hmm, I think this indicates a much cleaner fix is available.
> vm_swap_full is inherited from the old allocator, we can instead just
> let the allocator reclaim the slot if the slot have a count of 0 and
> ignore vm_swap_full at that point.
>
> Will this work? (Just a minimal implementation for reference, will be
> even better if we can avoid the overhead).
>
> diff --git a/mm/swapfile.c b/mm/swapfile.c
> index c3288910b3e3..94670fe82f31 100644
> --- a/mm/swapfile.c
> +++ b/mm/swapfile.c
> @@ -212,6 +212,9 @@ static int __try_to_reclaim_swap(struct
> swap_info_struct *si,
> nr_pages = folio_nr_pages(folio);
> ret = -nr_pages;
>
> + if (folio_mapped(folio) && !vm_swap_full())
> + goto out;
> +
> /*
> * We hold a folio lock here. We have to use trylock for
> * avoiding deadlock. This is a special case and you should
> @@ -903,8 +906,6 @@ static bool cluster_scan_range(struct swap_info_struct *si,
> if (swp_tb_is_null(swp_tb))
> continue;
> if (swp_tb_is_folio(swp_tb) && !__swp_tb_get_count(swp_tb)) {
> - if (!vm_swap_full())
> - return false;
> *need_reclaim = true;
> continue;
> }
>
Hi Kairui,
I tried it on our box (224 CPUs, 931 GiB swap partition). It doesn't
help there: after 100 rounds of the reproducer the leftover is 291 GB
with it and 309 GB without, and both stop growing at the same place,
488 GB, half of the device:
# cat /proc/swaps
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/nvme1n1p1 partition 976561148
489006260 -1
# cat /proc/meminfo | grep Swap
SwapCached: 489006260 kB
SwapTotal: 976561148 kB
SwapFree: 487554888 kB
cluster_alloc_swap_entry() picks clusters from nonfull_clusters first,
then free_clusters; it looks at frag_clusters only when both are empty,
and at full_clusters only when vm_swap_full(). A cluster gets onto
nonfull_clusters in partial_free_cluster(), that is when
__swap_cluster_free_entries() frees a slot in it; after
alloc_swap_scan_cluster() has used it, relocate_cluster() moves it to
frag or full.
A leftover slot has count 0 and a folio, so __swap_cluster_free_entries()
never runs for it. Once the live slots of a cluster are gone, nothing
calls partial_free_cluster() on it again, it stays on frag or full, and
cluster_alloc_swap_entry() doesn't pick it until the device is half
full. That is what the swap table looked like after the run:
list clusters leftover slots
FULL 106415 54484480 (all 512 slots leftover)
FRAG 44822 18471614
NONFULL 1 0
Making cluster_alloc_swap_entry() revisit those clusters means changing
the list policy.
> Or, from the LRU's side, put swap readahead folios at the tail. I'm
> actually trying to do that and it's not very easily doable at the
> moment but will soon be easy to do.
That helps the RAM side under pressure but doesn't give the slots
back.
>> Options considered:
>>
>> 1. Fix it on the readahead side: after the read, check the swap count
>> and free the slot. Covers the lock, not writeback, and the
>> asynchronous read path unlocks in the bio completion where the slot
>> cannot be freed. Two places to patch, neither clean.
> In fact, readahead checks the count before starts the read. It should
> prevent some of the problems but seems not enough.
Right, the count is still 1 at that point. The zap drops it to 0 while
the read is in flight, after the folio is already in the swap cache.
> And another idea, what if we just add dropbehind flag or rotate the
> folio, if folio_try_lock failed in __try_to_reclaim_swap?
dropbehind would work for readahead and writeback if the read
completion honoured it too; today only folio_end_writeback() does, for
zswap writeback folios, and swap_writeback_dropbehind_folio() expects
the folio off the LRU. It still misses other lock holders (migration,
split, ...). Rotating only helps under memory pressure.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-16 8:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-14 9:08 [PATCH mm-next] mm/swap: free swap cache folios the zap path gave up on Jiayuan Chen
2026-10-14 23:02 ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-15 3:22 ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-10-15 17:11 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-16 1:18 ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-10-16 3:05 ` Kairui Song
2026-10-16 8:42 ` Jiayuan Chen [this message]
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