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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>
Cc: Iurii Artemenko <Iurii_Artemenko@epam.com>,
	Doug Goldstein <cardoe@cardoe.com>,
	Minios-devel <minios-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Committers <committers@xenproject.org>,
	'Jan Beulich' <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Matt Spencer <Matt.Spencer@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [Minios-devel] automation: Creating a patchwork instance to improve pre-commit build testing
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:10:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <631ed7fc-af8a-1069-d3df-452faae1d95f@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D65CE7BF-9061-4EC5-AE6E-6DB6DCFAE92F@citrix.com>

On 24/07/18 10:57, Lars Kurth wrote:
>
> On 24/07/2018, 10:46, "Wei Liu" <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:38:24AM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote:
>     > 
>     > 
>     > > On 24 Jul 2018, at 10:24, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
>     > > 
>     > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 03:06:08AM -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
>     > >>>>> On 23.07.18 at 18:40, <lars.kurth@citrix.com> wrote:
>     > >>> # How does this impact me?
>     > >>> The contribution workflow is *not* impacted by this change, but once up and 
>     > >>> running the following will happen once you post a patch or patch series to 
>     > >>> xen-devel:
>     > >>> * Patchwork will take patch series from the mailing list and applies it
>     > >>> * CI/DC testing is triggered
>     > >>> * A test report will be sent as a mail to the patch or the series (aka the 00 patch of the series)
>     > >>> 
>     > >>> This does mean though that series which do not build or show other issues, 
>     > >>> will likely not be reviewed until the tests pass. This would lessen the 
>     > >>> burden on reviewers, as they will know whether the code submitted builds on a 
>     > >>> wide array of environments. 
>     > >> 
>     > >> So how are dependencies between series intended to be dealt with? It
>     > >> is not uncommon for someone to say "applies only on top of xyz". The
>     > >> implication of "will likely not be reviewed until the tests pass" seems
>     > >> unsuitable to me in such a case.
>     > >> 
>     > > 
>     > > We have been asking everyone to rebase to staging before posting a new
>     > > version for a long time.  It is natural for the bot to assume that
>     > > everything should apply on top of staging. That would provide most value
>     > > to the community.
>     > > 
>     > > For special cases like you just mention, we should aim to provide
>     > > mechanisms to manually appoint a branch to be tested.
>     > 
>     > Wei, Doug: I have another question, which is mainly for my own understanding. 
>     > 
>     > Right now we allow posting of patches to Linux, Qemu, xen.git,
>     > OSSTEST, ... to xen-devel. The planned CI infrastructure only applies
>     > to xen.git. Have you thought about how to handle such cases? 
>     
>     No. I haven't.  We may be able to use some heuristics here.
>     
> Or an alternative would be to say: if you want to use the test bot then CC xengit-testbot@xenproject.org (or something like it) when you submit the series. That would also get around Jan's issue with dependent series: you would simply not add the CC, when you know it won't build without a dependency.

If you require contributors to opt into automation, people will won't
know or forget, and reviewers will first have to ask people to submit
full series again CC'ing the correct bot.

-100 to any idea which requires an opt-in.  It should be active by default.

~Andrew

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-24 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-23 16:40 automation: Creating a patchwork instance to improve pre-commit build testing Lars Kurth
2018-07-24  9:06 ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-24  9:14   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-24  9:31     ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-24  9:24   ` Wei Liu
2018-07-24  9:34     ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-24  9:43       ` Wei Liu
2018-07-24 10:04         ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-24 10:18           ` Wei Liu
2018-07-24 10:33             ` Lars Kurth
2018-07-24 10:50               ` Julien Grall
2018-07-24 11:23                 ` Lars Kurth
2018-07-24 14:26                   ` Anthony PERARD
2018-07-24 15:26                   ` George Dunlap
2018-07-24 15:32                     ` George Dunlap
2018-07-24 17:22                     ` Dario Faggioli
2018-07-24 15:16           ` Doug Goldstein
2018-07-24 10:09       ` Lars Kurth
2018-07-24 14:32       ` George Dunlap
2018-07-24 15:08         ` Doug Goldstein
2018-07-24  9:38     ` [Minios-devel] " Lars Kurth
2018-07-24  9:46       ` Wei Liu
2018-07-24  9:57         ` Lars Kurth
2018-07-24 13:10           ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2018-07-24  9:26   ` Lars Kurth
2018-07-24 11:48     ` [Minios-devel] " Yuri Volchkov
2018-07-24 12:00       ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-24 12:45         ` Lars Kurth
2018-07-24 14:01           ` George Dunlap
2018-07-24 15:44             ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-24 15:51               ` George Dunlap
2018-07-24 14:05           ` Julien Grall

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