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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm: stress-ng --mremap triggers severe lruvec lock contention in populate/unmap paths
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2026 10:09:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <639f20f3-9e65-4117-af9b-e37af0829847@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <k2ldf7rk6mogzhoe3r7a2hpcc62x2uqqpnwk3czbet4shpirs5@sqfzsqpdc3fk>

>>
>> It was also found that adding '--mremap-numa' changes the behavior
>> substantially:
> 
> "assign memory mapped pages to randomly selected NUMA nodes. This is
> disabled for systems that do not support NUMA."
> 
> so this is just sharding your lock contention across your NUMA nodes (you
> have an lruvec per node).
> 
>>
>> stress-ng --mremap 8192 --mremap-bytes 4K --timeout 30 --mremap-numa
>> --metrics-brief
>>
>> mremap 2570798 29.39 8.06 106.23 87466.50 22494.74
>>
>> So it's possible that either actual swapping, or the mbind(...,
>> MPOL_MF_MOVE) path used by '--mremap-numa', removes most of the excessive
>> system time.
>>
>> Does this look like a known MM scalability issue around short-lived
>> MAP_POPULATE / munmap churn?
> 
> Yes. Is this an actual issue on some workload?

Same thought, it's unclear to me why we should care here. In particular,
when talking about excessive use of zero-filled pages.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07 20:09 [RFC] mm: stress-ng --mremap triggers severe lruvec lock contention in populate/unmap paths Joseph Salisbury
2026-04-07 21:47 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-04-08  8:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-04-08 14:27     ` [External] : " Joseph Salisbury
2026-04-09 16:37       ` Haakon Bugge
2026-04-09 17:26         ` Joseph Salisbury
2026-04-10 10:43         ` [External] : " Pedro Falcato
2026-04-09 18:24     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 21:59     ` Barry Song
2026-04-10 10:30       ` Pedro Falcato
2026-04-11  9:09         ` Barry Song
2026-04-07 22:44 ` John Hubbard
2026-04-08  0:35   ` Hugh Dickins
2026-04-09 18:03     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 18:12       ` John Hubbard
2026-04-09 18:20         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09 18:47         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 18:15       ` Haakon Bugge
2026-04-09 18:43         ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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