From: Simon Wunderlich <sw@simonwunderlich.de>
To: "Issam Hamdi" <ih@simonwunderlich.de>,
johannes@sipsolutions.net,
"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
mathias.kretschmer@fit.fraunhofer.de,
Simon Wunderlich <simon.wunderlich@open-mesh.com>,
Sven Eckelmann <se@simonwunderlich.de>,
Issam Hamdi <ih@simonwunderlich.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] wifi: ath9k: Reset chip on potential deaf state
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2024 14:30:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6688984.G0QQBjFxQf@prime> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h68l96l4.fsf@toke.dk>
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On Tuesday, November 5, 2024 2:02:31 PM CET Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> Issam Hamdi <ih@simonwunderlich.de> writes:
> > From: Simon Wunderlich <simon.wunderlich@open-mesh.com>
> >
> > The chip is switching seemingly random into a state which can be described
> > as "deaf". No or nearly no interrupts are generated anymore for incoming
> > packets. Existing links either break down after a while and new links will
> > not be established.
> >
> > The driver doesn't know if there is no other device available or if it
> > ended up in an "deaf" state. Resetting the chip proactively avoids
> > permanent problems in case the chip really was in its "deaf" state but
> > maybe causes unnecessary resets in case it wasn't "deaf".
>
> Proactively resetting the device if there is no traffic on the network
> for four seconds seems like a tad aggressive. Do you have any
> information on under which conditions this actually happens in practice?
> I assume this is a patch that has been lying around in openwrt for a
> while, or something?
Hi Toke,
this patch has been around for a long time (8 years or so?), and it has been
integrated in various vendor firmwares (at least three I know of) as well as
mesh community firmwares [1]. The circumstances leading to this "deafness" is
still unclear, but we see that some particular chips (especially 2-stream 11n
SoCs, but also others) can go 'deaf' when running AP or mesh (or both) after
some time. It's probably a hardware issue, and doing a channel scan to trigger
a chip reset (which one normally can't do on an AP interface) recovers the
hardware. This patch provides a workaround within the kernel.
We submitted it only as RFC back then [2], and since we had colleagues
suffering the same problem again we though we give it another shot to finally
get it integrated upstream. :)
The idea is that if the radio is idle anyway, a quick reset (which takes a few
tens of ms maximum) doesn't hurt much, and it helps to recover non-functional
APs or mesh points.
Cheers,
Simon
[1] https://github.com/freifunk-gluon/gluon/pull/2114
[2] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/patch/
20161117083614.19188-2-sven.eckelmann@open-mesh.com/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-05 13:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-04 17:16 [PATCH 1/2] wifi: ath9k: work around AR_CFG 0xdeadbeef chip hang Issam Hamdi
2024-11-04 17:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] wifi: ath9k: Reset chip on potential deaf state Issam Hamdi
2024-11-05 10:53 ` Kalle Valo
2024-11-05 13:02 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-05 13:30 ` Simon Wunderlich [this message]
2024-11-05 15:10 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-06 10:05 ` Hamdi Issam
2024-11-05 13:34 ` Simon Wunderlich
2024-11-05 10:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] wifi: ath9k: work around AR_CFG 0xdeadbeef chip hang Kalle Valo
2024-11-05 12:31 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-06 9:04 ` [PATCH v2 " Issam Hamdi
2024-11-06 9:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] wifi: ath9k: Reset chip on potential deaf state Issam Hamdi
2024-11-06 10:05 ` Sven Eckelmann
2024-11-06 12:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-07 8:03 ` Kalle Valo
2024-11-06 10:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] wifi: ath9k: work around AR_CFG 0xdeadbeef chip hang Sven Eckelmann
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