From: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] xen: tmem: selfballooning should be enabled when xen tmem is enabled
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:42:19 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6912a721-cd5b-4c12-91b2-795eb58ace66@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50AC9CFF02000078000AA43C@nat28.tlf.novell.com>
> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:21 AM
> To: Dan Magenheimer
> Cc: xen-devel@lists.xen.org; Konrad Wilk; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] xen: tmem: selfballooning should be enabled when xen tmem is enabled
>
> >>> On 20.11.12 at 23:42, Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com> wrote:
> > Konrad: Any chance this can get in for the upcoming window?
> > (Or is it enough of a bug fix that it can go in at an -rcN?)
> >
> > It was just pointed out to me that some kernels have
> > cleancache and frontswap and xen_tmem enabled but NOT
> > xen_selfballooning! While this configuration should be
> > possible, nearly all kernels that have CONFIG_XEN_TMEM=y should
> > also have CONFIG_XEN_SELFBALLOONING=y, since Transcendent
> > Memory (tmem) for Xen has very limited value without
> > selfballooning.
> >
> > This is probably a result of a Kconfig mistake fixed I think
> > by the patch below. Note that the year-old Oracle UEK2 kernel
> > distro has both CONFIG_XEN_TMEM and CONFIG_XEN_SELFBALLOONING
> > enabled, as does a Fedora 17 kernel update (3.6.6-1.fc17), so
> > the combination should be well tested. Also, Xen tmem (and thus
> > selfballooning) are currently only enabled when a kernel boot
> > parameter is supplied so there is no runtime impact without
> > that boot parameter.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/xen/Kconfig b/drivers/xen/Kconfig
> > index d4dffcd..b5f02f3 100644
> > --- a/drivers/xen/Kconfig
> > +++ b/drivers/xen/Kconfig
> > @@ -10,9 +10,9 @@ config XEN_BALLOON
> > return unneeded memory to the system.
> >
> > config XEN_SELFBALLOONING
> > - bool "Dynamically self-balloon kernel memory to target"
>
> Why would you want to take away the configurability of this?
> You wanting it always on in your use case doesn't mean everyone
> agrees. This would be the right way only when the option being
> off despite all its dependencies being enabled is actively wrong.
I'd like it to be configurable, but my config steps
(e.g. yes "" | make oldconfig, after enabling CLEANCACHE and
FRONTSWAP and XEN_TMEM) failed to enable it. Removing the
prompt is the only thing that worked.
> > - depends on XEN && XEN_BALLOON && CLEANCACHE && SWAP && XEN_TMEM
> > - default n
> > + bool
> > + depends on XEN_BALLOON && SWAP
> > + default y if XEN_TMEM
>
> Changing the default, otoh, is certainly acceptable. However, this
> should imo be (assuming that you dropped the CLEANCACHE
> dependency for an unrelated [and unexplained] reason),
>
> depends on XEN_BALLOON && SWAP && XEN_TMEM
> default XEN_TMEM
>
> i.e. the default selection can be simplified, but if you indeed
> have a good reason to drop the prompt, the
> dependencies should continue to include the symbol referenced
> by the default directive, as otherwise you may end up with a
> .config pointlessly having
>
> # CONFIG_XEN_SELFBALLOONING is disabled. This is particularly
> annoying when subsequently this gets a prompt re-added, since
> at that point a "make oldconfig" won't ask for the item to get
> possibly enabled as there is a value known for it already.
>
> > help
> > Self-ballooning dynamically balloons available kernel memory driven
> > by the current usage of anonymous memory ("committed AS") and
>
> If you take away the prompt, keeping the help text isn't useful
> either.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm an idiot with Kconfig and have
to play with it until it works as I expect. Since Konrad
isn't going to accept it for the upcoming window anyway,
I'll play with it some more, but if the answer is obvious,
please spoon feed it to me. :-)
Dan
P.S. I removed the CLEANCACHE dependency because that dependency
is present for XEN_TMEM and I assumed dependencies are transitive.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-21 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-20 22:42 [PATCH] xen: tmem: selfballooning should be enabled when xen tmem is enabled Dan Magenheimer
2012-11-21 2:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-11-21 2:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-11-21 15:26 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-11-21 15:26 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-11-21 8:21 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-21 8:21 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2012-11-21 15:42 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-11-21 15:42 ` Dan Magenheimer [this message]
2012-11-21 15:54 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2012-11-21 15:54 ` Jan Beulich
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