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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Kuninori Morimoto <kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com>
Cc: Linux-ALSA <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, ojab // <ojab@ojab.ru>,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] No sound since 5.4 on skl_n88l25_s4567
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 19:04:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d0f1830-a2f0-997a-99cc-05c268acefc6@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r2001bsi.wl-kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com>



>> a) remove the error handling after soc_dapm_add_routes() to be
>> backwards compatible with Intel problematic machine drivers. Not
>> really nice for everyone else.
>>
>> b) remove this error conditionally so that legacy Intel solutions
>> still work but new ones deal with errors upfront.
>>
>> I am not sure if there's a 'clean' way to implement b), maybe with a
>> Kconfig selected by some machine drivers? Morimito-san, any
>> suggestions now that we've root caused the problem (copied again below
>> for reference)?
> 
> Is it possible to *real* fixup in the future, some day ?

Quite unlikely I am afraid. This is a mismatch between topology and 
machine driver, and there are no planned updates of those topologies 
(which were never released for upstream use).

In this case I guess the topology file was taken from a ChromeOS 
distribution (based on v4.4 IIRC), so there's really no guarantee that a 
fix would ever reach the user without a convoluted set of manual updates.

> We need correct code, but backward compatibility is also needed.
> Not only Intel but some machine might have similar issue,
> so, how about to indicate WARNING, and comment ?
> 
> Like this
> 
>           ret = snd_soc_dapm_add_routes(dapm,
>                                         component->driver->dapm_routes,
>                                         component->driver->num_dapm_routes);
>          if (ret < 0)
>   -               goto err_probe;
>   +               /*
>   +                * This is error, but legacy Intel want
>   +                * compatibility until xxxx.
>   +                * call "goto err_probe" after that
>   +                */
>   +               dev_warn(dev, "DAPM route add failed.")

we already had a warning before:

[   22.364318] skl_n88l25_s4567 skl_n88l25_s4567: ASoC: Failed to add 
route iDisp3_out -> direct -> iDisp3 Tx

and it was ignored since there was no functional impact....

Maybe we could have some sort of boolean flag in the component->driver 
definition and explicitly request a backwards-compatible behavior (e.g. 
for all SKL/KBL machine drivers) when that driver is known to be flaky. 
There's already things like 'fully_routed', maybe we can add something 
such as 'disable_route_check'?
		
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-16  1:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAKzrAgTD2oeyajKGOaPea98vZ-uKJOn6uOqABA+CKtpvYpWYvQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <CAKzrAgTCE4btXr04pkvLUG6PPbtn9dm5h_9rjqDYG0HrTZ0zbg@mail.gmail.com>
2020-01-15  0:23   ` [alsa-devel] No sound since 5.4 on skl_n88l25_s4567 Kuninori Morimoto
2020-01-15  1:41     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-15 11:57       ` ojab //
2020-01-15 15:07         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-15 17:54           ` ojab //
2020-01-15 19:38             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-16  0:32               ` Kuninori Morimoto
2020-01-16  1:04                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2020-01-16  1:42                   ` Kuninori Morimoto
2020-01-16 14:57                   ` Mark Brown
2020-02-17 15:10                     ` ojab //
2020-02-18 16:24                       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-02-20 17:19                         ` ojab //
2020-01-15 11:59     ` ojab //

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