From: Tariq Toukan <ttoukan.linux@gmail.com>
To: Alexandra Winter <wintera@linux.ibm.com>,
Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
Cc: Rahul Rameshbabu <rrameshbabu@nvidia.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
Nils Hoppmann <niho@linux.ibm.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
Thorsten Winkler <twinkler@linux.ibm.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net/mlx5e: Transmit small messages in linear skb
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 13:36:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6ebe9fdf-ae3f-4e77-a2d4-82427e59f51b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e7f3798-c303-44b9-ae3f-5343f7f811e8@linux.ibm.com>
On 06/12/2024 17:20, Alexandra Winter wrote:
>
>
> On 04.12.24 15:32, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>>> @@ -269,6 +270,10 @@ static void mlx5e_sq_xmit_prepare(struct mlx5e_txqsq *sq, struct sk_buff *skb,
>>> {
>>> struct mlx5e_sq_stats *stats = sq->stats;
>>>
>>> + /* Don't require 2 IOMMU TLB entries, if one is sufficient */
>>> + if (use_dma_iommu(sq->pdev) && skb->truesize <= PAGE_SIZE)
> + skb_linearize(skb);
>> 1. What's with the direct DMA? I believe it would benefit, too?
>
>
> Removing the use_dma_iommu check is fine with us (s390). It is just a proposal to reduce the impact.
> Any opinions from the NVidia people?
>
>
>> 2. Why truesize, not something like
>>
>> if (skb->len <= some_sane_value_maybe_1k)
>
>
> With (skb->truesize <= PAGE_SIZE) the whole "head" buffer fits into 1 page.
> When we set the threshhold at a smaller value, skb->len makes more sense
>
>
>>
>> 3. As Eric mentioned, PAGE_SIZE can be up to 256 Kb, I don't think
>> it's a good idea to rely on this.
>> Some test-based hardcode would be enough (i.e. threshold on which
>> DMA mapping starts performing better).
>
>
> A threshhold of 4k is absolutely fine with us (s390).
> A threshhold of 1k would definitvely improve our situation and bring back the performance for some important scenarios.
>
>
> NVidia people do you have any opinion on a good threshhold?
>
Hi,
Many approaches in the past few years are going the opposite direction,
trying to avoid copies ("zero-copy").
In many cases, copy up to PAGE_SIZE means copy everything.
For high NIC speeds this is not realistic.
Anyway, based on past experience, threshold should not exceed "max
header size" (128/256b).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-09 11:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-04 14:02 [PATCH net-next] net/mlx5e: Transmit small messages in linear skb Alexandra Winter
2024-12-04 14:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2024-12-04 14:35 ` Alexandra Winter
2024-12-04 14:36 ` Eric Dumazet
2024-12-06 14:47 ` David Laight
2024-12-06 16:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2024-12-06 15:25 ` Alexandra Winter
2024-12-10 11:49 ` Dragos Tatulea
2024-12-11 16:19 ` Alexandra Winter
2024-12-11 17:36 ` Dragos Tatulea
2024-12-04 14:32 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-12-06 15:20 ` Alexandra Winter
2024-12-09 11:36 ` Tariq Toukan [this message]
2024-12-10 11:44 ` Dragos Tatulea
2024-12-10 13:54 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-12-10 17:10 ` Joe Damato
2024-12-11 13:35 ` Alexandra Winter
2024-12-11 17:28 ` Dragos Tatulea
2024-12-11 17:50 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-12-13 20:41 ` Dragos Tatulea
2024-12-12 10:36 ` Christian Borntraeger
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