From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [72.14.220.155] (helo=fg-out-1718.google.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5gm6-0007KR-4o for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:14:46 +0100 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so137979fge.20 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.80.5 with SMTP id d5mr1073145fgb.57.1198238974284; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.20.166? ( [194.79.8.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a37sm1324440fkc.3.2007.12.21.04.09.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:09:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:14:48 +0200 From: Paul Sokolovsky X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.64.01 Christmas Edition) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <736893224.20071221141448@gmail.com> To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org In-Reply-To: <476B0D45.4020209@gmx.net> References: <476A26BB.1010602@student.utwente.nl> <1871890373.20071220150812@gmail.com> <476B0D45.4020209@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RFC: drop quilt version 0.39 X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:14:46 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Robert, Friday, December 21, 2007, 2:48:05 AM, you wrote: > Hi. > Paul Sokolovsky schrieb: >> Hello Koen, >> To elaborate, I hope that we'll revamp OE support for using external >> toolchains for building single packages, because it seems that people >> have got a stereotype that OE is for building entire system from >> scratch (at that would be too limiting - why I'd use top-notch >> solution to build a whole distro while revert to using adhoc tools to >> build packages for 3rd-party systems?) > I second this. At jalimo we heavily use OE to build packages for Maemo. > I find this much more sane than endlessly fighting with scratchbox ... >> For example, I just pushed openwrt-sdk distro config, which allows >> to build packages against OpenWRT SDK. Due to OpenWRT dependencies, it >> may be required to build older than the latest versions of some >> packages. > Would be fun to bring OpenWRT people to a point where they only manage a > small set of core packages and create every other package using OE ... Yeah, conquering the world if always fun, but we should start with small things, like making it *easy* to build packages for 3rd-party systems, and fight OE stereotypes, the biggest of which: 1. OE is hard to install and setup 2. OE builds only complete images for installing "from scratch" 3. OE is only for PDAs and builds only big images. > Regards > Robert -- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmiscml@gmail.com