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From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	sandy harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: inclusion into kernel crypto API and /dev/random
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:45:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7447932.fADKoNoZRI@tauon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4763730.CsXSbevC1J@tauon>

Am Dienstag, 5. November 2013, 13:25:40 schrieb Stephan Mueller:

Hi Pavel,

>Am Montag, 4. November 2013, 00:32:07 schrieb Pavel Machek:

>>But they usually _do_ have RTC or other clock, not driven by CPU
>>oscilator. Good.
>>
>>What about just
>>
>>while (!enough_entropy) {
>>
>>      cur_time = read_rtc();
>>      simulated_tsc = 0;
>>      while (cur_time == read_rtc())
>>      
>>      	    simulated_tsc++;
>>      
>>      gain_entropy_from(simulated_tsc)
>>
>>}
>
>That is an interesting piece of code -- what would you do in the
>gain_entropy_from function?

Please disregard my question.

I plugged that idea into my current Jitter RNG processing and disabled 
the other jitter measurements to get a clear, isolated picture.

The result is also a white noise! And it is even quite fast.

That means with this approach, even another noise source is available 
that I could combine with the jitter measurements. 

I will have to perform more tests on that noise source. But the smoke 
test is already quite interesting.


Ciao
Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-05 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-11 18:38 [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: inclusion into kernel crypto API and /dev/random Stephan Mueller
2013-10-12  1:45 ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-12  3:28   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-12 19:04     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-12 20:12   ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]     ` <CACXcFm=_jmeKe2YYbHDi-jTGX-23hDsDeu_weWQkr2F_FpE_6g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-10-14 13:38       ` Fwd: " Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 14:12         ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 14:26           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 14:14         ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 14:40           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 15:18             ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 15:26               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 15:46                 ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 21:33                 ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-15  6:23               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-28 15:40 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-28 16:06   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-10-28 16:15     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-28 21:45   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-29  8:42     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-29 13:24       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-29 14:00         ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-29 22:25           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-02 11:01           ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-02 11:12             ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-03  7:20             ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-03 12:41               ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-05 12:20                 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 11:49                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 12:43                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-06 12:51                       ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 13:04                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-06 13:24                           ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-07  0:36                             ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2013-11-07  5:21                           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-09 22:04                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-10  1:10                               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-10 16:31                                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-10 17:21                                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-10 20:28                                     ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-13  3:12                                       ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-13 11:51                                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-13 15:15                                           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-13 17:14                                             ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-14 10:51                                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-14 18:01                                               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-14 18:30                                                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-14 18:34                                                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-11  2:58                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-07  1:03                         ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2013-11-07  5:26                           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-09 22:04                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-10  1:16                               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-03 23:32               ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-05 12:25                 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-05 13:45                   ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2013-11-06 11:42                     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 13:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-07  3:12                         ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-13  3:37         ` [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: Executing time variation tests on bare metal Stephan Mueller
2013-10-30 12:59     ` [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: inclusion into kernel crypto API and /dev/random Sandy Harris

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