From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 16/29] sched/deadline: Record the root domain holding a task's bandwidth
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 08:33:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7459ff0d-d8e1-4fe4-b2de-4b4f06be9bb9@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <avSPoSnNATnwZ8cS@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb>
Hi Juri,
> > + if (p->dl.dl_bw_gen == dl_bw_gen) {
>
> So, this is not guarded by dl_departed_lock, but then this gets fixed in
> later patches?
Yes, but only as a side effect, and the patch should not rely on it.
dl_bw_gen changes in a rebuild, which holds cpuset_mutex. From patch 18
on, set_cpus_allowed_dl() reaches this test only from cpuset_attach(),
which holds cpuset_mutex too. At this patch, from reading, other
callers still reach it without cpuset_mutex: select_fallback_rq(), and
sched_setaffinity() with admission control off. A rebuild can then
change dl_bw_gen between the test and the __dl_sub().
The planned next version takes dl_departed_lock around the test and the
update of the record, from this patch on.
> > + * enters the class. A runtime below about a millionth of the period
> > + * gives a bandwidth of 0. It counts for nothing, and no move updates
>
> Ah right, quite cryptic corner case buried in this comment. :)
>
> This is the 1024ns/2s of the test. Which indeed gets dl_bw 0. Don't
> think it's a huge deal from a theory/practice pov as to actually make an
> impact we probably need quite a lot of these admitted (fork bomb style).
> But it's still weird :P. Not sure if we want to impose a min of 1 dl_bw
> for these. If it actually complicates the accounting (for no good
> returns) or not.
I agree that it is odd. I left it as it is upstream. The accounting
needs no special case for it beyond this comment: a bandwidth of 0 is
added and removed like any other. The case move_zero_bw of
deadline_bw_test covers it.
A minimum of 1 would change what sched_setattr() admits, by one
millionth of a CPU for each such task. I would rather not do that in a
series of fixes. I can send it as a separate patch afterwards if you
want it.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-13 13:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-08 18:53 [PATCH v5 00/29] sched/deadline: bandwidth accounting fixes and selftests Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 01/29] sched: Fix cpuset_mutex double unlock in __sched_setscheduler() Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 02/29] sched: Refuse SCHED_FLAG_KEEP_PARAMS that would change the policy or the class Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 03/29] sched/deadline: Do not admit bandwidth for parameters that are kept Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 12:42 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 13:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 04/29] sched: Let a task boosted by a deadline waiter change its policy Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 13:38 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 05/29] sched/deadline: Do not divide by zero active CPUs of a root domain Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 14:30 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 14:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 15:09 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 15:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 06/29] sched: Take cpuset_mutex for a deadline policy change only with pi Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 15:06 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 15:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 07/29] sched/deadline: Do not lose a throttled task switched out and back Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 16:05 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 16:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 18:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 18:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 08/29] sched/deadline: Take a deadline boost from the waiter's rt_mutex node Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-10 11:14 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-10 13:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 09/29] sched/deadline: Reset the deadline and the runtime with the parameters Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-10 13:18 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-10 13:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 10/29] sched/deadline: Reset the donor's runtime at a deboost in the class Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:17 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 2:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 11/29] sched/deadline: Release the bandwidth of a task that leaves the class asleep Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-10 19:47 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-10 20:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 12/29] sched/deadline: Reject SCHED_DEADLINE on exited tasks Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 6:55 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 13/29] sched/deadline: Keep departing bandwidth across a root domain rebuild Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 12:59 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-11 15:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 16:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 19:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 14/29] sched/deadline: Fix this_bw when a task is changed during a remote wakeup Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 13:49 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 15/29] sched/deadline: Rebuild the root domains' accounting from the task list Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 14:24 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 16/29] sched/deadline: Record the root domain holding a task's bandwidth Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 15:54 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2026-11-13 15:06 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 17/29] sched/deadline: Leave a dying task out of a rebuild of the accounting Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12 6:40 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 18/29] sched/deadline: Move a task's bandwidth only where room was made Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:30 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 2:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12 7:03 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13 15:04 ` Andrea Parri
2026-11-13 15:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13 15:49 ` Andrea Parri
2026-11-13 4:37 ` Waiman Long
2026-11-13 13:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13 17:33 ` Waiman Long
2026-11-13 19:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 19/29] cgroup/cpuset: Wait for an attach before rebuilding the sched domains Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12 7:50 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 15:58 ` Waiman Long
2026-11-13 16:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 20/29] cgroup/cpuset: Give back the bandwidth an attach did not move Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12 9:19 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13 15:57 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 16:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13 16:57 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 21/29] cgroup/cpuset: Reserve the bandwidth in the root domain a task moves to Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:32 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 2:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 22/29] sched/deadline: Make a rebuild use the CPU recorded with a task's bandwidth Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 2:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 23/29] sched/deadline: Move a task's bandwidth when it must leave its CPU Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:41 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 2:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 24/29] sched/deadline: Cancel the replenishment timer with the parameters Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12 9:37 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 25/29] sched/deadline: Count the bandwidth a boosted task is given Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12 10:29 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 26/29] sched/debug: Show the deadline bandwidth of each runqueue Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12 10:36 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13 15:04 ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 27/29] selftests/sched: Add a test of SCHED_DEADLINE policy round trips Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 28/29] selftests/sched: Test SCHED_DEADLINE bandwidth across a root domain rebuild Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 29/29] selftests/sched: Add a test of SCHED_DEADLINE bandwidth accounting Mathieu Desnoyers
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