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To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:16:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74c68b63c43337d4366c367b282f4b91916d61ff@asthe.com> (raw)

We have heard in several comments to the effect:

        pwc us useless without pwcx

While we don't want/intend to take sides in the pwcx/kernel dispute,
we want to make it clear that these claims are simply not true.
The pwc driver is very useful without pwcx.

The LavaRnd project uses webcams with lens caps an entropy sources
for generating random numbers (see http://www.lavarnd.org).  One of
our reference webcams is the Logitech QuickCam 3000 Pro - pwc730 webcam
(see http://www.lavarnd.org/developer/pwc730.html).

    [[You may have heard of the SGI classic lavarand that used
      Lava Lite(R) lamps to generate seeds.  LavaRnd generates
      random numbers by way of webcams instead of Lava Lite lamps.
      See: http://www.lavarnd.org/news/lavadiff.html for differences]]

LavaRnd uses only the pwc module.  In fact our hotplug script install
script does an rmmod of the pwcx module.  This is because we discovered
that the pwcx module reduced the entropy that the webcams provided.
The pwcx module made the webcam a poorer entropy source.

Please do not remove the pwc module from the Linux kernel.  Our users
depend on pwc without pwcx.

We (LavaRnd) do not want to take sides in this PWC/PWCX kernel dispute. If
this posting appears that way, then we apologize.  It is our hope
that some solution that is satisfactory to both sides can be reached.

We would be happy to discuss ways that the pwc might be maintained
in the linux kernel.  If we can help, please ask us (see
http://www.lavarnd.org/about-us/contact-us.html for our EMail address).

chongo (Landon Curt Noll) /\oo/\

             reply	other threads:[~2004-08-28  2:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-28  2:16 lkml-mail [this message]
2004-08-28  5:30 ` Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc) Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-27 10:14 Koos Vriezen
2004-08-27 11:03 ` Marcus Metzler
2004-08-26 23:32 Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-26 23:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-27  0:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27  8:43     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-27  9:48       ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 17:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 17:37         ` Xavier Bestel
2004-08-27 18:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 18:55             ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 19:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 19:34                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-27 21:42                 ` Nemosoft Unv.
2004-08-27 22:49                   ` Marek Habersack
2004-08-27 23:40                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-08-28 17:42                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-27 23:04                   ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 19:06               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-27 19:12             ` Alex Belits
2004-08-27 21:36             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-08-27 21:42               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-08-27 22:26                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-08-27 21:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 22:22                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-28  0:45                   ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-28  0:53                     ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-28 10:29             ` Norbert van Nobelen
2004-08-29 14:37         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-28  9:26     ` chris
2004-08-29 14:41       ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 14:36     ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 18:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-29 18:57         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 19:40         ` Greg KH
2004-08-30  9:35         ` Craig Milo Rogers

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