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From: jic23@kernel.org
To: Maarten Brock <m.brock@vanmierlo.com>
Cc: Angelo Compagnucci <angelo.compagnucci@gmail.com>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, wsa@the-dreams.de,
	Peter Rosin <peda@axentia.se>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] iio: adc: mcp3422: Checking for error on probe
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 13:25:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75f6c20fc2ebd80ed104918ef8e1d179@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee3cc02ddcee31a154f6057ea466e1ed@vanmierlo.com>

On 03.07.2017 13:01, Maarten Brock wrote:
> On 2017-07-03 13:10, jic23@kernel.org wrote:
>> On 03.07.2017 09:42, Maarten Brock wrote:
>>> On 2017-07-01 12:07, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 23:53:10 +0200
>>>> Angelo Compagnucci <angelo.compagnucci@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Some part of the configuration are not touched after the probe
>>>>> and if something goes wrong on writing the initial one,
>>>>> the chip will misbehave.
>>>>> Adding an error checking ensures that the inital configuration will
>>>>> be written correctly. Moreover ensures that a sensible 
>>>>> configuration
>>>>> will be saved in driver data and used subsequently as intended.
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> Would this fix mean that loading the driver fails if the 
>>> update_config
>>> fails? And thus if the driver is not a module, would require a reboot
>>> of the OS?
>> Hmm. This is difficult to handle.  If we were waiting on another 
>> resource
>> coming up that was reflected by the load of a later driver, we 'could'
>> use deferred probing. Is that true here?
>> 
>> Wolfram, any thoughts - the issue here is that the i2c bus master is
>> implemented on an FPGA which hasn't necessarily started by the time 
>> this
>> driver fires up.
> 
> In my case it wasn't the master that was implemented in the FPGA, but 
> the
> channel from the master to the pins. I guess if the master was 
> implemented
> in the FPGA and not loaded yet, the master driver would fail to load.
Perhaps represent the FPGA explicitly as an i2c mux?  Kind of moves the 
problem
without solving it, but at least represents the hardware architecture.
> 
>> I'm a little loath to put in a rather mysterious deferral if we don't
>> need it.  The slave driver definitely feels like the wrong place to be 
>> doing
>> this.
>> 
>> What we should be looking at here I think is the i2c bus not being 
>> instantiated
>> until the fpga is ready.  That way these slave devices wouldn't come 
>> up
>> until somewhat later in the process and the driver probe will succeed.
> 
> I can envision other use-cases, like the device not yet being powered 
> up.
That should be explicitly represented as part of the devicetree or 
similar - i.e.
the regulator state should be known or controlled.  Any initial power up 
time
is usually handled by enforcing an appropriate sleep before talking to 
it in probe.
Naturally there will always be weird special cases though where a small 
number of
retries makes sense.
> 
>> We would normally only retry i2c transactions if we had either:
>> * known flaky hardware - the sort of thing that fails once every 100 
>> times.
> 
> I would consider every I2C device in this category. Maybe not 1 in
> 100, but not 1
> in a million either. With open-drain instead of push-pull drivers and 
> thus a
> relatively high impedance when signals are rising I would expect some
> disturbance
> every once in while. And this is most probably perfectly fine when 
> taking
> samples. But this fix expects the initialization to always pass when it 
> could
> easily retry again later on and report an error to the application if 
> it still
> fails.
One for Wolfram rather than me.
> 
> One could even argue that at probe time this device needs no write to 
> the config
> register at all. The driver will select the channel and PGA as 
> necessary anyway,
> which is a good moment to set the CONTINOUS conversion bit 
> unconditionally as
> well.
That would work for me as an alternative solution.
> 
> Maarten
> 
>> * a known reason the device isn't responding (and not able to use
>> clock stretching)
>> So device is busy doing a conversion and ignores the bus during that.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>>> Seems like a rather steep requirement for something that can be so
>>> easily fixed later on by e.g. caching an invalid config channel.
>>> There's not even a single retry. And I don't suppose the I2C driver
>>> will auto-retry either.
>>> 
>>> Maarten
>>> 
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  drivers/iio/adc/mcp3422.c | 4 +++-
>>>>>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/iio/adc/mcp3422.c b/drivers/iio/adc/mcp3422.c
>>>>> index 6737df8..63de705 100644
>>>>> --- a/drivers/iio/adc/mcp3422.c
>>>>> +++ b/drivers/iio/adc/mcp3422.c
>>>>> @@ -382,7 +382,9 @@ static int mcp3422_probe(struct i2c_client 
>>>>> *client,
>>>>>  		| MCP3422_CHANNEL_VALUE(0)
>>>>>  		| MCP3422_PGA_VALUE(MCP3422_PGA_1)
>>>>>  		| MCP3422_SAMPLE_RATE_VALUE(MCP3422_SRATE_240));
>>>>> -	mcp3422_update_config(adc, config);
>>>>> +	err = mcp3422_update_config(adc, config);
>>>>> +	if (err < 0)
>>>>> +		return err;
>>>>> 
>>>>>  	err = devm_iio_device_register(&client->dev, indio_dev);
>>>>>  	if (err < 0)
>>> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-03 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-28 21:53 [PATCH 1/3] iio: adc: mcp3422: Changing initial channel Angelo Compagnucci
2017-06-28 21:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] iio: adc: mcp3422: Checking for error on probe Angelo Compagnucci
2017-07-01 10:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-03  8:42     ` Maarten Brock
2017-07-03 11:10       ` jic23
2017-07-03 12:01         ` Maarten Brock
2017-07-03 12:11           ` Mike Looijmans
2017-07-03 12:25           ` jic23 [this message]
2017-07-03 21:04             ` Angelo Compagnucci
2017-07-04 19:57               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-06-28 21:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] iio: adc: mcp3422: cosmetic fixes Angelo Compagnucci
2017-07-01 10:12   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-01 10:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] iio: adc: mcp3422: Changing initial channel Jonathan Cameron

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