From: Craig <edfardos@gmail.com>
To: hugh@blemings.id.au, Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
kuba@kernel.org
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, horms@kernel.org,
linux-hams@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, stable@kernel.org,
workflows@vger.kernel.org, yizhe@darknavy.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] netrom: do some basic forms of validation on incoming frames
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 15:51:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <761f83cc-58eb-4b4a-ba91-d11412e7b2a6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f5810a7-c792-4d6b-9f7c-6c6b289def19@blemings.org>
> If the main concern here is ongoing maintenance of these Ham Radio
> related protocols/drivers, can we pause for a moment on anything as
> dramatic as removing from the tree entirely ?
>
> There is a good cohort of capable kernel folks that either are or were
> ham radio operators who I believe, upon realising that things have got
> to this point, will be happy to redouble efforts to ensure this code
> maintained and tested to a satisfactory standard.
>
> Or, alternatively, as a technical community it may be that the Ham
> Radio interested folks conclude that out of tree or user space
> solutions are a better way forward as others have proposed.
>
> Give us a few days, please, for the word to be put around that we need
> to pull ourselves together a bit as a technical group :)
>
I, for one, really can't imagine pulling an entire network subsytem out
of the kernel without any
knowledge of how/if/when it's used. Like intercontinental radio
networks, global email, ax.25
keyboard-to-keyboard, BBS and other emergency-communication systems
throughout the
world. If you're sure the Internet will never fail, I guess it makes
sense removing all of this
since it's inconvenient to maintain.
Global AX.25 keyboard-to-keyboard on 14.105Mhz
https://qsl.net/kb9pvh/105.html
AX.25/netrom VHF routed networks spanning from Oregon to Los Angeles.
https://www.easymapmaker.com/map/80666c4898ec6e8fa0c35add5d03282d
Global radio email using AX.25
https://winlink.org/RMSChannels (1,336 AX.25 email packet nodes on
the Earth and Space)
This is all in operation by Amateur Radio ARES emergency
protocols/technologies. This
will not pass the headline test when it comes to Linux detractors.
Most of this is running on Raspberry Pi / Linux 24/7.
If we want to kill all these apps and somehow force them into user space,
it's akin to just switching to Windows - and flounder with the Microsoft
folks
trying to do the same thing.
-craig
https://digipi.org/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-10 22:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-07 8:45 [PATCH net] netrom: do some basic forms of validation on incoming frames Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-09 19:03 ` Simon Horman
2026-04-10 3:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-10 5:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-10 10:28 ` Simon Horman
2026-04-10 15:12 ` jj
2026-04-10 16:38 ` David Ranch
2026-04-10 17:21 ` Dan Carpenter
2026-04-10 18:23 ` Dan Cross
2026-04-10 21:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-10 21:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-10 22:11 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-04-10 22:25 ` Hugh Blemings
2026-04-10 22:51 ` Craig [this message]
2026-04-10 23:38 ` Hugh Blemings
[not found] ` <CANnsUMEniMzLnp5h=Gz83=Wcegc-jGz9vqyWyEpWx-OH=Dij1w@mail.gmail.com>
2026-04-11 20:33 ` Chris Maness
2026-04-12 14:41 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-11 5:50 ` Greg KH
2026-04-11 7:24 ` Hugh Blemings
2026-04-11 8:58 ` Greg KH
2026-04-12 2:32 ` Hugh Blemings
2026-04-12 12:56 ` Chris Maness
2026-04-16 16:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
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