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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Xie He' <xie.he.0141@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"linux-x25@vger.kernel.org" <linux-x25@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Martin Schiller <ms@dev.tdt.de>, Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: RE: [PATCH net] net: hdlc_x25: Use qdisc to queue outgoing LAPB frames
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 10:14:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77971dffcff441c3ad3d257825dc214b@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210127090747.364951-1-xie.he.0141@gmail.com>

From: Xie He
> Sent: 27 January 2021 09:08
> 
> An HDLC hardware driver may call netif_stop_queue to temporarily stop
> the TX queue when the hardware is busy sending a frame, and after the
> hardware has finished sending the frame, call netif_wake_queue to
> resume the TX queue.
> 
> However, the LAPB module doesn't know about this. Whether or not the
> hardware driver has stopped the TX queue, the LAPB module still feeds
> outgoing frames to the hardware driver for transmission. This can cause
> frames to be dropped by the hardware driver.
> 
> It's not easy to fix this issue in the LAPB module. We can indeed let the
> LAPB module check whether the TX queue has been stopped before feeding
> each frame to the hardware driver, but when the hardware driver resumes
> the TX queue, it's not easy to immediately notify the LAPB module and ask
> it to resume transmission.
> 
> Instead, we can fix this issue at the hdlc_x25 layer, by using qdisc TX
> queues to queue outgoing LAPB frames. The qdisc TX queue will then
> automatically be controlled by netif_stop_queue and netif_wake_queue.
> 
> This way, when sending, we will use the qdisc queue to queue and send
> the data twice: once as the L3 packet and then (after processed by the
> LAPB module) as an LAPB (L2) frame. This does not make the logic of the
> code messy, because when receiving, data are already "received" on the
> device twice: once as an LAPB (L2) frame and then (after processed by
> the LAPB module) as the L3 packet.

If I read this correctly it adds a (potentially big) queue between the
LAPB code that adds the sequence numbers to the frames and the hardware
that actually sends them.

IIRC [1] there is a general expectation that the NR in a transmitted frame
will be the same as the last received NS unless acks are being delayed
for flow control reasons.

You definitely want to be able to ack a received frame while transmitting
back-to-back I-frames.

This really means that you only want 2 frames in the hardware driver.
The one being transmitted and the next one - so it gets sent with a
shared flag.
There is no point sending an RR unless the hardware link is actually idle.

[1] I've been doing to much SS7 MTP2 recently, I can't quite remember
all of LAPB!

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-27 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-27  9:07 [PATCH net] net: hdlc_x25: Use qdisc to queue outgoing LAPB frames Xie He
2021-01-27 10:14 ` David Laight [this message]
2021-01-27 20:29   ` Xie He
2021-01-28  6:39     ` Martin Schiller
2021-01-28 19:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-28 22:06   ` Xie He
2021-01-29  5:56     ` Martin Schiller
2021-01-30  1:36       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-30 14:29         ` Xie He
2021-01-30 19:16           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-31  3:16             ` Xie He
2021-02-01  9:18               ` Martin Schiller
2021-02-01 11:38                 ` Xie He
2021-02-01 13:14                   ` Martin Schiller
2021-02-01 14:02                     ` Xie He

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