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From: "Scott Preece" <sepreece@gmail.com>
To: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH try #3] security: Convert LSM into a static interface
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On 7/19/07, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Please distinguish between "cater to" and "support". If the kernel
> > didn't worry about supporting out-of-tree code, then why would there
> > be loadable module at all?
>
> Memory usage, flexibility, debugging.
>
> Module support was not added for external modules.
>

Code that is being debugged is, often [usually, I hope], out-of-tree
code, though it may be aimed at future inclusion.

However, I do agree that there is value to having loadable modules for
in-tree functionality, too.

scott
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scott preece