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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.dev>
To: "Péter Ujfalusi" <peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com>,
	lgirdwood@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org
Cc: linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, kai.vehmanen@linux.intel.com,
	ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com,
	yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com,
	guennadi.liakhovetski@linux.intel.com, bhelgaas@google.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] ASoC/SOF/PCI/Intel: add Wildcat Lake support
Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 14:47:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f3b2d28-38d0-482c-b79a-5aabed6b6ea8@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bfb8e9a6-92c1-4079-aec0-b1ad2b245c70@linux.intel.com>

On 5/13/25 08:23, Péter Ujfalusi wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/05/2025 15:59, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>
>>> The audio IP in Wildcat Lake (WCL) is largely identical to the one in
>>> Panther Lake, the main difference is the number of DSP cores, memory
>>> and clocking.
>>> It is based on the same ACE3 architecture.
>>>
>>> In SOF the PTL topologies can be re-used for WCL to reduce duplication
>>> of code and topology files. 
>>
>> Is this really true? I thought topology files are precisely the place where a specific pipeline is assigned to a specific core. If the number of cores is lower, then a PTL topology could fail when used on a WCL DSP, no?
> 
> Yes, that is true, however for generic (sdw, HDA) topologies this is not
> an issue as we don't spread the modules (there is no customization per
> platform).
> When it comes to product topologies, they can still be named as PTL/WCL
> if needed and have tailored core use.
> 
> It might be that WCL will not use audio configs common with PTL, in that
> case we still can have sof-wcl-* topologies if desired.

Right, so the topologies can be used except when they cannot :-)

> Fwiw, in case of soundwire we are moving to a even more generic function
> topology split, where all SDW device can us generic function fragments
> stitched together to create a complete topology.
> Those will have to be compatible with all platforms, so wide swing of
> core use cannot be possible anymore.

I couldn't follow this explanation, or I am missing some context. My expectation is that as soon as someone starts inserting a 3rd party module all bets on core assignment are off, I am not sure how rules could be generic without adding restrictions on where 3rd party modules are added.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-14 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-08 18:02 [PATCH 0/5] ASoC/SOF/PCI/Intel: add Wildcat Lake support Peter Ujfalusi
2025-05-08 18:02 ` [PATCH 1/5] PCI: pci_ids: add INTEL_HDA_WCL Peter Ujfalusi
2025-05-15 17:03   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2025-05-19  6:18     ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-05-08 18:02 ` [PATCH 2/5] ALSA: hda: add HDMI codec ID for Intel WCL Peter Ujfalusi
2025-05-08 18:02 ` [PATCH 3/5] ASoC: SOF: Intel: add initial support for WCL Peter Ujfalusi
2025-05-09  1:32   ` Mark Brown
2025-05-08 18:02 ` [PATCH 4/5] ALSA: hda: intel-dsp-config: Add WCL support Peter Ujfalusi
2025-05-08 18:02 ` [PATCH 5/5] ALSA: hda: hda-intel: add Wildcat Lake support Peter Ujfalusi
2025-05-12 12:59 ` [PATCH 0/5] ASoC/SOF/PCI/Intel: " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-05-13  6:23   ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-05-14 12:47     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2025-05-14 13:09       ` Péter Ujfalusi
     [not found]   ` <c95dec28-b77d-47ff-95a3-d103991180ed@linux.intel.com>
2025-05-13 10:18     ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-05-15  9:00 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart

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