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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] PM dependencies
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 08:26:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7hioowfre3.fsf@paris.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdabUuhebq=Pi3v277TVYRfN1KdqYcytZqFft2qYH5eJCg@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Walleij's message of "Fri, 23 May 2014 10:32:24 +0200")

Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org> writes:

> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org> wrote:
>
>> Of course, for many "simple" platforms, runtime PM get/put just ends up
>> doing a clk_enable/disable, but on the platforms where runtime PM is
>> slightly more... um, "interesting"... just doing a clk enable/disable
>> won't do what you hope.
>
> And drivers/base/power/clock_ops.c as invoked from
> drivers/sh/pm_runtime.c does exactly that simple thing using
> PM domains. Quite elegantly too, I'd say.
>
> But now I get curious - can we define the "interesting PM" more
> generally, like get the details out? And I mean like for a few different
> platforms, I know OMAP with its hwmod is one such thing, but how
> much interesting stuff do we have out there that we know we must
> be able to handle?

By "interesting", I was referring to some of the more complicated ones
we have, such as OMAP (though I suspect other SoCs are equally
complicated but just don't have their stuff documented and/or upstream
yet so we don't know.)

That being said, I think any SoC that requires more than a clk_enable()
to bring an IP block out of a low-power state, or clk_disable() to put
it into a low-power state qualifies as "interesting" because it can no
longer rely on the "simple" clock_ops.c you refer to above.

Stated differently, for most SoCs, fine-grained PM is a lot more than
just clock management.  As soon as you have to do more than manage
clocks, the generic clock_ops.c isn't good enough and you need your own
PM domain (or use genpd.)

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-23 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-12 17:43 [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] PM dependencies Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-12 17:51 ` Shuah Khan
2014-05-18 15:42   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-05-12 18:09 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-05-12 20:14 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-12 20:27   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-12 20:31     ` Mark Brown
2014-05-12 21:16       ` Tomasz Figa
2014-05-12 22:07         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-13  7:43           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-13 10:31             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-13 14:26               ` Shuah Khan
2014-05-15 23:43                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-19  1:00                   ` Shuah Khan
2014-05-19  7:30                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 22:27           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 22:34             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-14 12:59               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-15 23:34               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-20 16:57                 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-20 18:51                   ` Mark Brown
2014-05-21  9:26                   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-05-21 11:16                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-22  0:19                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-22 10:14                     ` Mark Brown
2014-05-23 23:15                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-24 10:53                         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-25 12:56                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-22 17:35                     ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23 23:26                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-23  0:18                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-23  0:39                     ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23  8:32                       ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-23 15:26                         ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2014-05-24  0:13                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-24  0:08                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-26 14:30                         ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-05-23  8:25                     ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-23  9:10                       ` Ulf Hansson
2014-05-24  0:00                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-15 22:45             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-14 21:08           ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-14 12:11       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-14 11:57         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-14 12:32           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-14 15:14             ` Mark Brown
2014-05-14 15:26           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-14 15:40             ` Mark Brown

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