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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Allen Yu <alleny@nvidia.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] PM / Runtime: let rpm_resume fail if rpm disabled and device suspended.
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:57:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7hk387pi72.fsf@paris.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1406210913470.26962-100000@netrider.rowland.org> (Alan Stern's message of "Sat, 21 Jun 2014 09:34:28 -0400 (EDT)")

Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:

[...]

> What we really need to figure out is how to tell the PM core which
> devices may safely have their runtime callbacks invoked during system
> suspend.  For those devices, the core can avoid calling
> pm_runtime_disable() during the suspend_late phase.  That would address
> your requirements, right?

Yes, and something I've attempted a few times over the years, most
recently during the introduction of the pm_runtime_force* functions[1],
which I thought was again an attempt to work around this issue.

I don't think Rafael has ever been too thrilled with that idea
(including the last time[2]), but I think we're to a point now that we
have to manage this somehow.

My attempt to let the bus/subsystem/pm_domain set a flag might be
too simplistic, but I do agree we do need som way to tell the PM core
that runtime PM callbacks are (still) safe.

Kevin

[1] http://marc.info/?l=linux-pm&m=139343222014989&w=2
[2] http://marc.info/?l=linux-pm&m=139346327619875&w=2

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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Allen Yu <alleny@nvidia.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-pm\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] PM / Runtime: let rpm_resume fail if rpm disabled and device suspended.
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:57:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7hk387pi72.fsf@paris.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1406210913470.26962-100000@netrider.rowland.org> (Alan Stern's message of "Sat, 21 Jun 2014 09:34:28 -0400 (EDT)")

Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:

[...]

> What we really need to figure out is how to tell the PM core which
> devices may safely have their runtime callbacks invoked during system
> suspend.  For those devices, the core can avoid calling
> pm_runtime_disable() during the suspend_late phase.  That would address
> your requirements, right?

Yes, and something I've attempted a few times over the years, most
recently during the introduction of the pm_runtime_force* functions[1],
which I thought was again an attempt to work around this issue.

I don't think Rafael has ever been too thrilled with that idea
(including the last time[2]), but I think we're to a point now that we
have to manage this somehow.

My attempt to let the bus/subsystem/pm_domain set a flag might be
too simplistic, but I do agree we do need som way to tell the PM core
that runtime PM callbacks are (still) safe.

Kevin

[1] http://marc.info/?l=linux-pm&m=139343222014989&w=2
[2] http://marc.info/?l=linux-pm&m=139346327619875&w=2

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-23 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-14 10:03 [PATCH 1/1] PM / Runtime: let rpm_resume fail if rpm disabled and device suspended Allen Yu
2014-06-14 10:03 ` Allen Yu
2014-06-14 14:32 ` Alan Stern
2014-06-14 14:32   ` Alan Stern
2014-06-16  3:03   ` Allen Yu
2014-06-16 14:43     ` Alan Stern
2014-06-16 17:40 ` Alan Stern
2014-06-16 17:40   ` Alan Stern
2014-06-16 21:29   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-17 14:11     ` Alan Stern
2014-06-17 14:11       ` Alan Stern
2014-06-17 20:26       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-17 20:37         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-17 20:46           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-18 15:30             ` Alan Stern
2014-06-18 15:30               ` Alan Stern
2014-06-18 23:57               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-19  8:23                 ` Allen Yu
2014-06-19  8:23                   ` Allen Yu
2014-06-19 13:55                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-19 14:34                     ` Allen Yu
2014-06-19 14:34                       ` Allen Yu
2014-06-20 14:04                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-19 14:56                   ` Alan Stern
2014-06-19 19:25                     ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-19 19:25                       ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-19 20:13                       ` Alan Stern
2014-06-20 13:20                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-20 14:48                           ` Alan Stern
2014-06-20 21:34                             ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-20 21:34                               ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-22 13:40                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-22 13:24                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-20 21:31                         ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-20 21:31                           ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-21 13:34                           ` Alan Stern
2014-06-22 13:35                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-23 18:57                             ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2014-06-23 18:57                               ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-19 14:34                 ` Alan Stern
2014-06-19 14:34                   ` Alan Stern
2014-06-20 13:33                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-20 14:43                     ` Alan Stern
2014-06-20 14:43                       ` Alan Stern
2014-06-22 13:21                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-22 16:45                         ` Alan Stern
2014-06-22 16:45                           ` Alan Stern
2014-06-24 23:38                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-27 18:27                             ` [RFC] Add "rpm_not_supported" flag Alan Stern
2014-06-27 19:22                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-06-27 20:11                                 ` Alan Stern
2014-06-27 20:50                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-06-28 15:32                                     ` Alan Stern
2014-06-30 13:52                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-30 14:42                                         ` Alan Stern
2014-07-01 23:18                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-02 14:27                                             ` Alan Stern
2014-07-02 17:56                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-07-03 21:16                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-03 21:17                                                 ` Alan Stern
2014-07-16 22:40                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-16 23:03                                                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-07-16 23:27                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-17 14:27                                                     ` Alan Stern
2014-07-18  0:48                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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