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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
	Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>,
	Jon Seymour <jon.seymour@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add new @ shortcut for HEAD
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:22:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vppxcdjd1.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8D_gPpprETkAxf+eYp5DMt7uVt6nanCwthZO=vVfBT28Q@mail.gmail.com> (Duy Nguyen's message of "Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:54:39 +0700")

Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:35 AM, Felipe Contreras
> <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So we can type '@' instead of 'HEAD@', or rather 'HEAD'. So now we can
>> use 'git show @~1', and all that goody goodness.
>
> I like this. I haven't spent a lot of time on thinking about
> ambiguation. But I think we're safe there. '@' is not overloaded much
> like ':', '^' or '~'.
>
>> This patch allows 'HEAD@' to be the same as 'HEAD@{0}', and similarly with
>> 'master@'.
>
> I'm a bit reluctant to this. It looks like incomplete syntax to me as
> '@' has always been followed by '{'. Can we have the lone '@' candy
> but reject master@ and HEAD@? There's no actual gain in writing
> master@ vs master@{0}.

Originally I was going to say the same, but after thinking about it
a bit more, I changed my mind.

If you accept only "@" but not "master@", that behaviour needs a
wrong world model to understand and justify (one of which is "@ is a
synonym for HEAD").  If your rule is "In $anything@{$n}, you can
drop {$n} when $n==0", then HEAD@{0} becomes HEAD@ and master@{0}
becomes master@, and @{0} becomes @ naturally.

We should make sure that the code rejects "git update-ref @ foo"
because that is "git update-ref @{0} ref", by the way.  I didn't
check with Felipe's patch.

>> +'@'::
>> +  '@' alone is a shortcut for 'HEAD'
>> +

I think this explanation sends a wrong message, hinting as if you
can expect "update-ref @ master", "symbolic-ref @ refs/heads/next"
etc. to do something sensible to HEAD.

Felipe's original justification in the log message "I want to drop
{0}" sounds closer to what is going on here.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-30 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-29 19:35 [PATCH] Add new @ shortcut for HEAD Felipe Contreras
2013-04-29 19:43 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-29 20:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-29 20:14   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-29 20:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-29 20:38       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-29 21:01         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-29 20:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-29 20:23   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-29 21:36     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-29 22:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-30  0:53         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-04-30 17:54           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-30 18:17             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-29 22:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-29 22:49   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-29 23:06     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-29 23:10       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30  5:54 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-30  6:10   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30  6:17     ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-30  6:20       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30  6:30     ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-30  7:55       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30  7:09   ` Michael Haggerty
2013-04-30  7:35     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-30 10:16       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-30 11:10         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-30 18:54       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-30 10:12     ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-30 17:22   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2013-04-30 17:37     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-30 17:40     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-30 17:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-30 18:04         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-30 18:20       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30 18:45         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-30 22:08           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30 17:47     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30 17:56       ` Jeff King
2013-04-30 18:18         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30 19:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-30 19:53       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-30 20:05         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-30 20:37           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-30 19:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-30 22:17       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30 22:27         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-30 22:38           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30 22:42             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-30 22:53               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30 23:00                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30 23:19                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-04-30 23:24                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-30  6:07 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-30  6:11   ` Felipe Contreras

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