From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Wincent Colaiuta <win@wincent.com>,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Steffen Prohaska <prohaska@zib.de>,
Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>,
Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Minor annoyance with git push
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:59:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vzlu8cta1.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080210223440.GA15051@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:34:40 -0500")
Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> ... Are there any
> other git commands which use non-HEAD branches that have not been
> explicitly mentioned by the user? I can think only of query-type
> commands (like show-branch, or describe) that are non-state-changing.
That's an irrelevant comparison. push and fetch have always
been multi-branch operations by default from day one. The issue
is not HEAD vs non-HEAD.
You can argue that historically established practices do not
matter at all (at least to new people), and I'd grant that it
may be a valid argument. But a change that breaks existing
practices needs to be sold much more carefully. I still do not
understand what the opposition is to keep the current behaviour
as the default and have a shorthand for the single head push
accessible with a short and sweet "git push $there HEAD" (and
default $there to 'origin' when missing).
If you are introducing a new behaviour, there is no way the new
behaviour can start out by replacing the longtime default. It
should start out as an option, and if it is a commonly useful
option then make it an _easily accessible_ option. And accept
such an _enhancement_ sooner to help people who want such a
behaviour sooner. That would not hurt anybody but help
(hopefully) many people, without downside.
Switching the default behaviour is a much longer term thing. It
definitely has downside people mentioned in this thread.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-10 23:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-08 4:44 Minor annoyance with git push Martin Langhoff
2008-02-08 4:50 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-02-08 7:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-09 11:22 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-10 3:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-10 12:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-08 11:52 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-08 22:23 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-02-08 22:27 ` Mike Hommey
2008-02-08 5:38 ` Sean
2008-02-08 6:29 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-08 11:50 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-08 22:27 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-02-08 22:57 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-09 2:46 ` Jeff King
2008-02-09 2:54 ` Jeff King
2008-02-09 13:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-09 13:22 ` Jeff King
2008-02-09 11:22 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-09 3:00 ` Jeff King
2008-02-09 3:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-09 3:55 ` Jeff King
2008-02-09 11:50 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-02-09 13:06 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-10 2:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-10 10:13 ` Jeff King
2008-02-10 12:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-17 1:08 ` [RFC] checkout to notice forks (Re: Minor annoyance with git push) Junio C Hamano
2008-02-17 3:31 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-02-17 4:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-17 6:39 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-02-17 7:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-17 17:36 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-02-17 12:28 ` Jeff King
2008-02-20 16:01 ` Santi Béjar
2008-02-19 17:03 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-02-20 23:05 ` [PATCH] checkout: tone down the "forked status" diagnostic messages Junio C Hamano
2008-02-21 1:45 ` Jeff King
2008-02-21 3:42 ` [PATCH] checkout: updates to tracking report Junio C Hamano
2008-02-21 5:27 ` Jay Soffian
2008-02-21 17:02 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-02-21 2:56 ` [PATCH] checkout: tone down the "forked status" diagnostic messages Jay Soffian
2008-02-09 10:53 ` Minor annoyance with git push Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-09 13:10 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-10 2:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-10 2:15 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-10 10:17 ` Jeff King
2008-02-10 12:20 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-10 12:23 ` Jeff King
2008-02-10 13:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-10 13:07 ` Jeff King
2008-02-20 8:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-20 13:06 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-20 15:20 ` Jay Soffian
2008-02-20 15:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-21 22:35 ` Steven Walter
2008-02-22 0:11 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-20 14:03 ` Jeff King
2008-02-20 17:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-20 18:15 ` Jeff King
2008-02-20 18:17 ` Jeff King
2008-02-20 18:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-02-20 18:23 ` Jeff King
2008-02-10 14:03 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-02-10 15:02 ` Steven Walter
2008-02-10 16:29 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-10 16:26 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-10 18:18 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-02-10 22:34 ` Jeff King
2008-02-10 22:59 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2008-02-10 23:29 ` Jeff King
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