From: bryanh@giraffe-data.com (Bryan Henderson)
To: ethanol@armory.com
Cc: kzak@redhat.com, ams@gnu.org, P@draigbrady.com,
acahalan@gmail.com, util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: splitting util-linux (was: kill)
Date: 21 Dec 2006 16:34:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <80765.bryanh@giraffe-data.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061221041033.GB13134@armory.com> (ethanol@armory.com)
I have thought for many years that util-linux is obsolete. When it
was new, it was a quite helpful distribution of components with which
to build a system. Today, we have a plethora of giant Linux distros,
sourceforge, and freshmeat. Such things eliminate most of the
original value in having one big tarball. In fact, the amalgamation
of unrelated tools now causes more pain than convenience, because you
often want some parts of the package but not others (as evidenced in
the 'kill' discussion). We also seem to have a maintainership
problem, since there are people who are willing to maintain some
pieces, but less energetic about maintaining the entire package or
working through a central bureaucracy.
Forking of util-linux is the ideal time to improve this. Just don't
fork the whole package; fork the part you're interested in. The
discussion I've seen so far shows the interest mainly in the
filesystem tools, so maybe we should just have a new linuxfs-util (and
use linuxfs-devel mailing list). (Even that would be too big a
package for my taste. The Minix utilities should be in a package of
their own).
--
Bryan Henderson Phone 408-621-2000
San Jose, California
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-21 17:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-20 6:42 util-linux: orphan Albert Cahalan
2006-12-20 8:57 ` kill (was: Re: util-linux: orphan) Karel Zak
2006-12-20 10:03 ` kill Pádraig Brady
2006-12-20 10:45 ` kill Karel Zak
2006-12-20 21:45 ` kill Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-12-20 23:55 ` kill Karel Zak
2006-12-21 4:10 ` kill Evan Hunt
2006-12-21 16:34 ` Bryan Henderson [this message]
2006-12-21 21:53 ` splitting util-linux (was: kill) Karel Zak
2006-12-22 6:12 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-22 7:13 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22 9:06 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-22 7:23 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22 7:45 ` Evan Hunt
2006-12-22 8:07 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22 8:45 ` Evan Hunt
2006-12-22 11:03 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22 16:52 ` Evan Hunt
2006-12-22 12:32 ` Ian Kent
2006-12-22 10:24 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22 14:50 ` Mark Rosenstand
2006-12-22 17:38 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-25 20:03 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-25 22:50 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22 6:44 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22 7:52 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-21 10:51 ` kill Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-12-21 11:39 ` kill Martin Mares
2006-12-21 15:30 ` kill Karel Zak
2006-12-21 16:50 ` kill Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-12-21 17:38 ` kill Albert Cahalan
2006-12-22 1:37 ` kill Ian Kent
2006-12-20 15:00 ` kill Ian Kent
2006-12-20 16:58 ` kill Albert Cahalan
2006-12-20 16:33 ` kill (was: Re: util-linux: orphan) Albert Cahalan
2006-12-20 21:12 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-21 2:32 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-20 16:13 ` util-linux: orphan Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-20 17:27 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-21 20:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
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