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From: Avihai Horon <avihaih@nvidia.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Juraj Marcin" <jmarcin@redhat.com>,
	"Kirti Wankhede" <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"Maciej S . Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex@shazbot.org>,
	"Yishai Hadas" <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Pranav Tyagi" <prtyagi@redhat.com>,
	"Zhiyi Guo" <zhguo@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 07/12] migration: Introduce stopcopy_bytes in save_query_pending()
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 18:54:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <82b40877-482e-4dbe-add1-6e0cc4292ae7@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260319231302.123135-8-peterx@redhat.com>


On 3/20/2026 1:12 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
>
>
> Allow modules to report data that can only be migrated after VM is stopped.
>
> When this concept is introduced, we will need to account stopcopy size to
> be part of pending_size as before.
>
> One thing to mention is, when there can be stopcopy size, it means the old
> "pending_size" may not always be able to reach low enough to kickoff an
> slow version of query sync.  While it used to be almost guaranteed to
> happen because if we keep iterating, normally pending_size can go to zero
> for precopy-only because we assume everything reported can be migrated in
> precopy phase.
>
> So we need to make sure QEMU will kickoff a synchronized version of query
> pending when all precopy data is migrated too.  This might be important to
> VFIO to keep making progress even if the downtime cannot yet be satisfied.
>
> So far, this patch should introduce no functional change, as no module yet
> report stopcopy size.
>
> This will pave way for VFIO to properly report its pending data sizes,
> which was actually buggy today.  Will be done in follow up patches.
>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> ---
>   include/migration/register.h | 12 +++++++++
>   migration/migration.c        | 52 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>   migration/savevm.c           |  7 +++--
>   migration/trace-events       |  2 +-
>   4 files changed, 62 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/migration/register.h b/include/migration/register.h
> index 2320c3a981..3824958ba5 100644
> --- a/include/migration/register.h
> +++ b/include/migration/register.h
> @@ -17,12 +17,24 @@
>   #include "hw/core/vmstate-if.h"
>
>   typedef struct MigPendingData {
> +    /*
> +     * Modules can only update these fields in a query request via its
> +     * save_query_pending() API.
> +     */

Move comment to patch #5?

>       /* How many bytes are pending for precopy / stopcopy? */
>       uint64_t precopy_bytes;
>       /* How many bytes are pending that can be transferred in postcopy? */
>       uint64_t postcopy_bytes;
> +    /* How many bytes that can only be transferred when VM stopped? */
> +    uint64_t stopcopy_bytes;

Keep consistent phrasing?

/* Amount of pending bytes that can be transferred either in precopy or 
stopcopy */
uint64_t precopy_bytes;
/* Amount of pending bytes that can be transferred in postcopy */
uint64_t postcopy_bytes;
/* Amount of pending bytes that can be transferred only in stopcopy */
uint64_t stopcopy_bytes;

> +
> +    /*
> +     * Modules should never update these fields.
> +     */

Move comment to patch #5?

>       /* Is this a fastpath query (which can be inaccurate)? */
>       bool fastpath;
> +    /* Total pending data */
> +    uint64_t total_bytes;
>   } MigPendingData ;
>
>   /**
> diff --git a/migration/migration.c b/migration/migration.c
> index 99c4d09000..42facb16d1 100644
> --- a/migration/migration.c
> +++ b/migration/migration.c
> @@ -3198,6 +3198,44 @@ typedef enum {
>       MIG_ITERATE_BREAK,          /* Break the loop */
>   } MigIterateState;
>
> +/* Are we ready to move to the next iteration phase? */
> +static bool migration_iteration_next_ready(MigrationState *s,
> +                                           MigPendingData *pending)
> +{
> +    /*
> +     * If the estimated values already suggest us to switchover, mark this
> +     * iteration finished, time to do a slow sync.
> +     */
> +    if (pending->total_bytes <= s->threshold_size) {
> +        return true;
> +    }
> +
> +    /*
> +     * Since we may have modules reporting stop-only data, we also want to
> +     * re-query with slow mode if all precopy data is moved over.  This
> +     * will also mark the current iteration done.
> +     *
> +     * This could happen when e.g. a module (like, VFIO) reports stopcopy
> +     * size too large so it will never yet satisfy the downtime with the
> +     * current setup (above check).  Here, slow version of re-query helps
> +     * because we keep trying the best to move whatever we have.
> +     */
> +    if (pending->precopy_bytes == 0) {
> +        return true;
> +    }
> +
> +    return false;
> +}
> +
> +static void migration_iteration_go_next(MigPendingData *pending)
> +{
> +    /*
> +     * Do a slow sync will achieve this.  TODO: move RAM iteration code
> +     * into the core layer.
> +     */
> +    qemu_savevm_query_pending(pending, false);
> +}

I think the iteration terminology here could be confusing, because these 
two functions are called from migration_iteration_run() and they don't 
refer to the same iteration concept.
How about migration_pass_next_ready/migration_pass_go_next?
Or migration_dirty_sync_ready/migration_dirty_sync?

Thanks.

> +
>   /*
>    * Return true if continue to the next iteration directly, false
>    * otherwise.
> @@ -3209,12 +3247,10 @@ static MigIterateState migration_iteration_run(MigrationState *s)
>                           s->state == MIGRATION_STATUS_POSTCOPY_ACTIVE);
>       bool can_switchover = migration_can_switchover(s);
>       MigPendingData pending = { };
> -    uint64_t pending_size;
>       bool complete_ready;
>
>       /* Fast path - get the estimated amount of pending data */
>       qemu_savevm_query_pending(&pending, true);
> -    pending_size = pending.precopy_bytes + pending.postcopy_bytes;
>
>       if (in_postcopy) {
>           /*
> @@ -3222,7 +3258,7 @@ static MigIterateState migration_iteration_run(MigrationState *s)
>            * postcopy completion doesn't rely on can_switchover, because when
>            * POSTCOPY_ACTIVE it means switchover already happened.
>            */
> -        complete_ready = !pending_size;
> +        complete_ready = !pending.total_bytes;
>           if (s->state == MIGRATION_STATUS_POSTCOPY_DEVICE &&
>               (s->postcopy_package_loaded || complete_ready)) {
>               /*
> @@ -3242,9 +3278,8 @@ static MigIterateState migration_iteration_run(MigrationState *s)
>            * postcopy started, so ESTIMATE should always match with EXACT
>            * during postcopy phase.
>            */
> -        if (pending_size <= s->threshold_size) {
> -            qemu_savevm_query_pending(&pending, false);
> -            pending_size = pending.precopy_bytes + pending.postcopy_bytes;
> +        if (migration_iteration_next_ready(s, &pending)) {
> +            migration_iteration_go_next(&pending);
>           }
>
>           /* Should we switch to postcopy now? */
> @@ -3264,11 +3299,12 @@ static MigIterateState migration_iteration_run(MigrationState *s)
>            * (2) Pending size is no more than the threshold specified
>            *     (which was calculated from expected downtime)
>            */
> -        complete_ready = can_switchover && (pending_size <= s->threshold_size);
> +        complete_ready = can_switchover &&
> +            (pending.total_bytes <= s->threshold_size);
>       }
>
>       if (complete_ready) {
> -        trace_migration_thread_low_pending(pending_size);
> +        trace_migration_thread_low_pending(pending.total_bytes);
>           migration_completion(s);
>           return MIG_ITERATE_BREAK;
>       }
> diff --git a/migration/savevm.c b/migration/savevm.c
> index b3285d480f..812c72b3e5 100644
> --- a/migration/savevm.c
> +++ b/migration/savevm.c
> @@ -1766,8 +1766,7 @@ void qemu_savevm_query_pending(MigPendingData *pending, bool fastpath)
>   {
>       SaveStateEntry *se;
>
> -    pending->precopy_bytes = 0;
> -    pending->postcopy_bytes = 0;
> +    memset(pending, 0, sizeof(*pending));
>       pending->fastpath = fastpath;
>
>       QTAILQ_FOREACH(se, &savevm_state.handlers, entry) {
> @@ -1780,7 +1779,11 @@ void qemu_savevm_query_pending(MigPendingData *pending, bool fastpath)
>           se->ops->save_query_pending(se->opaque, pending);
>       }
>
> +    pending->total_bytes = pending->precopy_bytes +
> +        pending->stopcopy_bytes + pending->postcopy_bytes;
> +
>       trace_qemu_savevm_query_pending(fastpath, pending->precopy_bytes,
> +                                    pending->stopcopy_bytes,
>                                       pending->postcopy_bytes);
>   }
>
> diff --git a/migration/trace-events b/migration/trace-events
> index 5f836a8652..175f09f8ad 100644
> --- a/migration/trace-events
> +++ b/migration/trace-events
> @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ qemu_loadvm_state_section_partend(uint32_t section_id) "%u"
>   qemu_loadvm_state_post_main(int ret) "%d"
>   qemu_loadvm_state_section_startfull(uint32_t section_id, const char *idstr, uint32_t instance_id, uint32_t version_id) "%u(%s) %u %u"
>   qemu_savevm_send_packaged(void) ""
> -qemu_savevm_query_pending(bool fast, uint64_t precopy, uint64_t postcopy) "fast=%d, precopy=%"PRIu64", postcopy=%"PRIu64
> +qemu_savevm_query_pending(bool fast, uint64_t precopy, uint64_t stopcopy, uint64_t postcopy) "fast=%d, precopy=%"PRIu64", stopcopy=%"PRIu64", postcopy=%"PRIu64
>   loadvm_state_switchover_ack_needed(unsigned int switchover_ack_pending_num) "Switchover ack pending num=%u"
>   loadvm_state_setup(void) ""
>   loadvm_state_cleanup(void) ""
> --
> 2.50.1
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-25 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-19 23:12 [PATCH RFC 00/12] migration/vfio: Fix a few issues on API misuse or statistic reports Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 01/12] migration: Fix low possibility downtime violation Peter Xu
2026-03-20 12:26   ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-27 14:35     ` Juraj Marcin
2026-03-30 11:52       ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-31 12:49         ` Juraj Marcin
2026-04-06  7:21           ` Prasad Pandit
2026-04-01 19:11       ` Peter Xu
2026-03-27 15:05   ` Juraj Marcin
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 02/12] migration/qapi: Rename MigrationStats to MigrationRAMStats Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:26   ` Peter Xu
2026-03-20  6:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-04-01 19:38     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-01 19:47     ` Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 03/12] vfio/migration: Throttle vfio_save_block() on data size to read Peter Xu
2026-03-25 14:10   ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-01 20:36     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-06 11:21       ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-07 15:18         ` Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 04/12] vfio/migration: Cache stop size in VFIOMigration Peter Xu
2026-03-25 14:15   ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-01 20:41     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-06 11:28       ` Avihai Horon
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 05/12] migration/treewide: Merge @state_pending_{exact|estimate} APIs Peter Xu
2026-03-24 10:35   ` Prasad Pandit
2026-04-01 20:53     ` Peter Xu
2026-03-25 15:20   ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-01 21:22     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-06 11:54       ` Avihai Horon
2026-03-27 15:17   ` Juraj Marcin
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 06/12] migration: Use the new save_query_pending() API directly Peter Xu
2026-03-24  9:35   ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-27 15:24   ` Juraj Marcin
2026-04-01 22:28     ` Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 07/12] migration: Introduce stopcopy_bytes in save_query_pending() Peter Xu
2026-03-24 11:05   ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-25 16:54   ` Avihai Horon [this message]
2026-04-02 14:09     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-06 12:20       ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-07 15:30         ` Peter Xu
2026-03-27 16:43   ` Juraj Marcin
2026-04-02 15:16     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-07 15:19       ` Juraj Marcin
2026-04-07 15:32         ` Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 08/12] vfio/migration: Fix incorrect reporting for VFIO pending data Peter Xu
2026-03-25 17:32   ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-02 15:28     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-02 15:55       ` Peter Xu
2026-04-06 12:34         ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-07 15:45           ` Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 09/12] migration: Make iteration counter out of RAM Peter Xu
2026-03-20  6:12   ` Yong Huang
2026-03-20  9:49   ` Prasad Pandit
2026-04-02 15:35     ` Peter Xu
2026-03-27 16:49   ` Juraj Marcin
2026-04-02 15:42     ` Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 10/12] migration: Introduce a helper to return switchover bw estimate Peter Xu
2026-03-23 10:26   ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-27 17:07   ` Juraj Marcin
2026-04-07 17:27     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-08 14:33       ` Juraj Marcin
2026-03-19 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 11/12] migration: Calculate expected downtime on demand Peter Xu
2026-03-27 17:17   ` Juraj Marcin
2026-04-07 17:33     ` Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 12/12] migration: Fix calculation of expected_downtime to take VFIO info Peter Xu
2026-03-23 12:05   ` Prasad Pandit
2026-04-07 17:40     ` Peter Xu

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