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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] mm/uffd: UFFD_FEATURE_WP_UNPOPULATED
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 16:57:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83b3f3ad-19a2-3737-77dd-3c3f9db82194@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZAiqPU0RX3JfDFRP@x1n>

>>
>>> With WP_UNPOPUATED, application like QEMU can avoid pre-read faults all the
>>> memory before wr-protect during taking a live snapshot.  Quotting from
>>> Muhammad's test result here [3] based on a simple program [4]:
>>>
>>>     (1) With huge page disabled
>>>     echo madvise > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
>>>     ./uffd_wp_perf
>>>     Test DEFAULT: 4
>>>     Test PRE-READ: 1111453 (pre-fault 1101011)
>>>     Test MADVISE: 278276 (pre-fault 266378)
>>>     Test WP-UNPOPULATE: 11712
>>>
>>>     (2) With Huge page enabled
>>>     echo always > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
>>>     ./uffd_wp_perf
>>>     Test DEFAULT: 4
>>>     Test PRE-READ: 22521 (pre-fault 22348)
>>>     Test MADVISE: 4909 (pre-fault 4743)
>>>     Test WP-UNPOPULATE: 14448
>>>
>>> There'll be a great perf boost for no-thp case, while for thp enabled with
>>> extreme case of all-thp-zero WP_UNPOPULATED can be slower than MADVISE, but
>>> that's low possibility in reality, also the overhead was not reduced but
>>> postponed until a follow up write on any huge zero thp, so potentitially it
>>
>> s/potentitially/potentially/
>>
>>> is faster by making the follow up writes slower.
>>
>> What I realized, interrestingly not only the writes, but also the reads. In
> 
> Curious why reading a zeropage would be a problem?

Oh, my thinking was that with markers you postpone placing the shared 
zeropage. So the next read access will require a pagefault to map the 
shared zeropage. Your v1 would have performed best in that case I guess.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-08 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06 21:39 [PATCH v3 0/2] mm/uffd: Add feature bit UFFD_FEATURE_WP_UNPOPULATED Peter Xu
2023-03-06 21:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] mm/uffd: UFFD_FEATURE_WP_UNPOPULATED Peter Xu
2023-03-07 16:11   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-08 15:31     ` Peter Xu
2023-03-08 15:57       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-03-08 16:51         ` Peter Xu
2023-03-08 17:04           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-06 21:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] selftests/mm: Smoke test WP_UNPOPULATED Peter Xu

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