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From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Marcos Paulo de Souza <mpdesouza@suse.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Jason Wessel <jason.wessel@windriver.com>,
	Daniel Thompson <danielt@kernel.org>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kgdb-bugreport@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] printk: nbcon: Introduce KDB helpers
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:44:45 +0206	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84ecsfk7wq.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMA34mPqHFC3v3Kf@pathway.suse.cz>

On 2025-09-09, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
>> > Honestly, I think that the flush is not much important because
>> > it will most offten have nothing to do.
>> >
>> > I am just not sure whether it is better to have it there
>> > or avoid it. It might be better to remove it after all.
>> > And just document the decision.
>> 
>> IMHO keeping the flush is fine. There are cases where there might be
>> something to print. And since a printing kthread will get no chance to
>> print as long as kdb is alive, we should have kdb flushing that
>> console.
>> 
>> Note that this is the only console that will actually see the new
>> messages immediately as all the other CPUs and quiesced.
>
> I do not understand this argument. IMHO, this new
> try_acquire()/release() API should primary flush only
> the console which was (b)locked by this API.
>
> It will be called in kdb_msg_write() which tries to write
> to all registered consoles. So the other nbcon consoles will
> get flushed when the try_acquire() succeeds on them. And the
> legacy conosles were never flushed.

Right. I oversaw that it acquires each of the nbcon's.

> I would prefer to keep __nbcon_atomic_flush_pending_con().
> I mean to flush only the console which was blocked.

Agreed.

>> After release try to flush all consoles since there may be a backlog of
>> messages in the ringbuffer. The kthread console printers do not get a
>> chance to run while kdb is active.
>
> I like this text.

OK, but then change it to talk only about the one console.

After release try to flush the console since there may be a backlog of
messages in the ringbuffer. The kthread console printers do not get a
chance to run while kdb is active.

John

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-09 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-02 18:33 [PATCH v3 0/4] Handle NBCON consoles on KDB Marcos Paulo de Souza
2025-09-02 18:33 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] printk: nbcon: Export console_is_usable Marcos Paulo de Souza
2025-09-05 13:48   ` Petr Mladek
2025-09-02 18:33 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] printk: nbcon: Introduce KDB helpers Marcos Paulo de Souza
2025-09-05 16:21   ` Petr Mladek
2025-09-08 12:09     ` John Ogness
2025-09-09 14:21       ` Petr Mladek
2025-09-09 14:38         ` John Ogness [this message]
2025-09-02 18:33 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] printk: nbcon: Allow KDB to acquire the NBCON context Marcos Paulo de Souza
2025-09-05 14:52   ` John Ogness
2025-09-05 18:30     ` Marcos Paulo de Souza
2025-09-08 15:23     ` Petr Mladek
2025-09-09  7:53       ` John Ogness
2025-09-08 15:14   ` Petr Mladek
2025-09-02 18:33 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] kdb: Adapt kdb_msg_write to work with NBCON consoles Marcos Paulo de Souza
2025-09-08 15:51   ` Petr Mladek
2025-09-08 19:27     ` Marcos Paulo de Souza
2025-09-09  7:57       ` John Ogness
2025-09-09 11:39         ` Marcos Paulo de Souza
2025-09-09 13:48         ` Petr Mladek
2025-09-09 14:23           ` John Ogness
2025-09-09 15:03             ` Petr Mladek

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