From: "manish.mishra" <manish.mishra@nutanix.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Leonardo Bras Soares Passos <lsoaresp@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P . Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 13/21] migration: Postcopy recover with preempt enabled
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 20:21:23 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85b85303-e4e8-77be-c65d-76018ac7704c@nutanix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YoJboZoJdPwWpeFe@xz-m1.local>
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On 16/05/22 7:41 pm, Peter Xu wrote:
> Hi, Manish,
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 07:01:35PM +0530, manish.mishra wrote:
>> On 26/04/22 5:08 am, Peter Xu wrote:
>> LGTM,
>> Peter, I wanted to give review-tag for this and ealier patch too. I am new
>> to qemu
>> review process so not sure how give review-tag, did not find any reference
>> on
>> google too. So if you please let me know how to do it.
> It's here:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__git.qemu.org_-3Fp-3Dqemu.git-3Ba-3Dblob-3Bf-3Ddocs_devel_submitting-2Da-2Dpatch.rst-3Bhb-3DHEAD-23l492&d=DwIBaQ&c=s883GpUCOChKOHiocYtGcg&r=c4KON2DiMd-szjwjggQcuUvTsPWblztAL0gVzaHnNmc&m=8LU6rphEJ5GMSXEpSxe8JZ_hpn6TQDUXfjWM6Vt7DdShxnU3X5zYXbAMBLPYchdK&s=TUNUCtdl7LWhrdlfnIx1F08kC0d9IMvArl6cNMpfXkc&e=
>
> Since afaict QEMU is mostly following what Linux does, you can also
> reference to this one with more context:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.kernel.org_doc_html_v4.17_process_submitting-2Dpatches.html-23using-2Dreported-2Dby-2Dtested-2Dby-2Dreviewed-2Dby-2Dsuggested-2Dby-2Dand-2Dfixes&d=DwIBaQ&c=s883GpUCOChKOHiocYtGcg&r=c4KON2DiMd-szjwjggQcuUvTsPWblztAL0gVzaHnNmc&m=8LU6rphEJ5GMSXEpSxe8JZ_hpn6TQDUXfjWM6Vt7DdShxnU3X5zYXbAMBLPYchdK&s=TJmr_eC4LAccVY1EqgkLleXfJhUgtIjTJmLc3cedYr0&e=
>
> But since you're still having question regarding this patch, no rush on
> providing your R-bs; let's finish the discussion first.
>
> [...]
>
>>> +static void postcopy_pause_ram_fast_load(MigrationIncomingState *mis)
>>> +{
>>> + trace_postcopy_pause_fast_load();
>>> + qemu_mutex_unlock(&mis->postcopy_prio_thread_mutex);
>> I may have misunderstood synchronisation here but very very rare chance,
>>
>> as both threads are working independently is it possible qemu_sem_post on
>>
>> postcopy_pause_sem_fast_load is called by main thread even before we go
>>
>> to qemu_sem_wait in next line, causing some kind of deadlock. That's should
>>
>> not be possible as i understand it requires manually calling
>> qmp_migration_recover
>>
>> so chances are almost impossible. Just wanted to confirm it.
> Sorry I don't quite get the question, could you elaborate? E.g., when the
> described deadlock happened, what is both main thread and preempt load
> thread doing? What are they waiting at?
>
> Note: we have already released mutex before waiting on sem.
What i meant here is deadlock could be due the reason that we infinately wait
on qemu_sem_wait(&mis->postcopy_pause_sem_fast_load), because main
thread already called post on postcopy_pause_sem_fast_load after recovery
even before we moved to qemu_sem_wait(&mis->postcopy_pause_sem_fast_load)
in next line. Basically if we miss a post on postcopy_pause_sem_fast_load.
This is nearly impossibily case becuase it requires full recovery path to be completed
before this thread executes just next line. Also as recovery needs to be called manually,
So please ignore this.
Basically i wanted to check if we should use something like
int pthread_cond_wait(pthread_cond_t *restrict cond,
pthread_mutex_t *restrict mutex);
so that there is no race between releasing mutex and calling wait.
>
>>> + qemu_sem_wait(&mis->postcopy_pause_sem_fast_load);
>> Just wanted to confirm why postcopy_pause_incoming is not called here
>> itself.
> postcopy_pause_incoming() is only used in the main ram load thread, while
> this function (postcopy_pause_ram_fast_load) is only called by the preempt
> load thread.
>
ok got it, thanks Peter, i meant if we should close both the channels as soon
as we relise there is some failure instead of main thread waiting for error event
and then closing and pausing post-copy. But agree current approach is good.
>> Is it based on assumption that if there is error in any of the channel it
>> will
>>
>> eventually be paused on source side, closing both channels, resulting
>>
>> postcopy_pause_incoming will be called from main thread on destination?
> Yes.
>
>> Usually it should be good to call as early as possible. It is left to main
>>
>> thread default path so that we do not have any synchronisation overhead?
> What's the sync overhead you mentioned? What we want to do here is simply
> to put all the dest QEMU migration threads into a halted state rather than
> quitting, so that they can be continued when necessary.
>
>> Also Peter, i was trying to understand postcopy recovery model so is use
>> case
>>
>> of qmp_migrate_pause just for debugging purpose?
> Yes. It's also a way to cleanly stop using the network (comparing to force
> unplug the nic ports?) for whatever reason with a shutdown() syscall upon
> the socket. I just don't know whether there's any real use case of that in
> reality.
>
> Thanks,
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-16 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-25 23:38 [PATCH v5 00/21] migration: Postcopy Preemption Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 01/21] tests: fix encoding of IP addresses in x509 certs Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 02/21] tests: add more helper macros for creating TLS " Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 03/21] tests: add migration tests of TLS with PSK credentials Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 04/21] tests: add migration tests of TLS with x509 credentials Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 05/21] tests: convert XBZRLE migration test to use common helper Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 06/21] tests: convert multifd migration tests " Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 07/21] tests: add multifd migration tests of TLS with PSK credentials Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 08/21] tests: add multifd migration tests of TLS with x509 credentials Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 09/21] tests: ensure migration status isn't reported as failed Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 10/21] migration: Add postcopy-preempt capability Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 11/21] migration: Postcopy preemption preparation on channel creation Peter Xu
2022-05-11 17:08 ` manish.mishra
2022-05-12 16:36 ` Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 12/21] migration: Postcopy preemption enablement Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 13/21] migration: Postcopy recover with preempt enabled Peter Xu
2022-05-16 13:31 ` manish.mishra
2022-05-16 14:11 ` Peter Xu
2022-05-16 14:51 ` manish.mishra [this message]
2022-05-16 15:32 ` manish.mishra
2022-05-16 15:58 ` Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 14/21] migration: Create the postcopy preempt channel asynchronously Peter Xu
2022-05-12 17:35 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-05-16 15:02 ` manish.mishra
2022-05-16 16:21 ` Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 15/21] migration: Parameter x-postcopy-preempt-break-huge Peter Xu
2022-05-12 17:42 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-05-16 15:20 ` manish.mishra
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 16/21] migration: Add helpers to detect TLS capability Peter Xu
2022-05-12 17:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 17/21] migration: Export tls-[creds|hostname|authz] params to cmdline too Peter Xu
2022-05-12 18:03 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-05-12 19:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-12 20:07 ` Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 18/21] migration: Enable TLS for preempt channel Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 19/21] tests: Add postcopy tls migration test Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 20/21] tests: Add postcopy tls recovery " Peter Xu
2022-04-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 21/21] tests: Add postcopy preempt tests Peter Xu
2022-05-16 15:25 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] migration: Postcopy Preemption manish.mishra
2022-05-16 16:06 ` Peter Xu
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