From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 21 May 2002 23:08:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 21 May 2002 23:08:58 -0400 Received: from smtpnotes.altec.com ([209.149.164.10]:62469 "HELO smtpnotes.altec.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Tue, 21 May 2002 23:08:57 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALTEC From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com To: Russell King cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <86256BC1.001146A6.00@smtpnotes.altec.com> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:02:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Linux-2.5.17 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org I can live with not building, crashing, or even eating filesystems. Those things will be fixed sooner or later. But breaking userspace programs -- that may well be permanent. If there was a good chance it would be working again by the time 2.6 comes out, it wouldn't bother me. But I really don't expect this to change, so it looks like I won't be able to use 2.5 (or anything later) until I get another version of gtop, or fix this one myself. And so there will be yet another nonstandard change to my patchwork system that I'll have to deal with (if I even remember it) the next time I try to upgrade (i.e., reinstall) Slackware. Russell King on 05/21/2002 06:29:23 PM To: Wayne Brown/Corporate/Altec@Altec cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux-2.5.17 On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 06:20:56PM -0500, Wayne.Brown@altec.com wrote: > So, I'm just getting used to the idea of using new tools to build kernels, > and now I learn that 2.5 breaks an ordinary program that I use all day, > every day. It just keeps getting better and better... The 2. series, like 2.5 is a strictly development kernel series; new features go into these all the time. You can expect it to: 1. not build. 2. crash. 3. silently eat your filesystems. 4. break userspace programs. or any combination of the above. If you're looking for stability, stick with the 2. series. -- Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk) The developer of ARM Linux http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/