From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/23] KVM: arm64: Add tracepoints + stats for LPI cache effectiveness
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 15:55:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <864jeb59ca.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240213093250.3960069-2-oliver.upton@linux.dev>
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:32:38 +0000,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> LPI translation and injection has been shown to have a significant
> impact on the performance of VM workloads, so it probably makes sense to
> add some signals in this area.
>
> Introduce the concept of a KVM tracepoint that associates with a VM
> stat and use it for the LPI translation cache tracepoints. It isn't too
> uncommon for a kernel hacker to attach to tracepoints, while at the same
> time userspace may open a 'binary stats' FD to peek at the corresponding
> VM stats.
>
> Signed-off-by: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
> ---
> arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 3 ++
> arch/arm64/kvm/guest.c | 5 ++-
> arch/arm64/kvm/vgic/trace.h | 66 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> arch/arm64/kvm/vgic/vgic-its.c | 14 ++++++-
> include/linux/kvm_host.h | 4 ++
> 5 files changed, 89 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> index 21c57b812569..6f88b76373a5 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> @@ -966,6 +966,9 @@ static inline bool __vcpu_write_sys_reg_to_cpu(u64 val, int reg)
>
> struct kvm_vm_stat {
> struct kvm_vm_stat_generic generic;
> + u64 vgic_its_trans_cache_hit;
> + u64 vgic_its_trans_cache_miss;
> + u64 vgic_its_trans_cache_victim;
> };
>
> struct kvm_vcpu_stat {
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/guest.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/guest.c
> index aaf1d4939739..354d67251fc2 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/guest.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/guest.c
> @@ -30,7 +30,10 @@
> #include "trace.h"
>
> const struct _kvm_stats_desc kvm_vm_stats_desc[] = {
> - KVM_GENERIC_VM_STATS()
> + KVM_GENERIC_VM_STATS(),
> + STATS_DESC_COUNTER(VM, vgic_its_trans_cache_hit),
> + STATS_DESC_COUNTER(VM, vgic_its_trans_cache_miss),
> + STATS_DESC_COUNTER(VM, vgic_its_trans_cache_victim)
> };
We've talked about this offline, but I thought I'd make my position
public on these.
I've very concerned that exposing these statistic, however useful they
may be at a given point in time, will eventually become all wrong
and/or misleading.
Case in point, our discussion about this very series, where we landed
on a potential reimplementation of the translation cache as a per-ITS
xarray. If this comes to fruition, these stats will probably be
totally useless (hit monotonically increasing at the rate of 1 per
interrupt, miss being 0 or 1, victim being stuck to 0).
I'm *not* saying that such stats are totally useless. Just that they
are, by definition, tied to a kernel-side implementation choice, which
will evolve. The trouble is that they create an ABI that we need to
support forever.
I wish we could work on something that would allow such statistics to
be *extracted* (as opposed to published). Something like this as a
discussion subject for a future KVM Forum or LPC uConf would get my
full backing (and I'm pretty sure the networking folks have solved
that problem a long time ago).
Thanks,
M.
--
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-13 9:32 [PATCH v2 00/23] KVM: arm64: Improvements to LPI injection Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 01/23] KVM: arm64: Add tracepoints + stats for LPI cache effectiveness Oliver Upton
2024-02-14 15:55 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 02/23] KVM: arm64: vgic: Store LPIs in an xarray Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 21:52 ` Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 03/23] KVM: arm64: vgic: Use xarray to find LPI in vgic_get_lpi() Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 04/23] KVM: arm64: vgic-v3: Iterate the xarray to find pending LPIs Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 05/23] KVM: arm64: vgic-its: Walk the LPI xarray in vgic_copy_lpi_list() Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 06/23] KVM: arm64: vgic: Get rid of the LPI linked-list Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 07/23] KVM: arm64: vgic: Use atomics to count LPIs Oliver Upton
2024-02-14 16:47 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-02-14 18:32 ` Oliver Upton
2024-02-14 20:01 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-02-14 23:01 ` Oliver Upton
2024-02-15 9:44 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 08/23] KVM: arm64: vgic: Free LPI vgic_irq structs in an RCU-safe manner Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 09/23] KVM: arm64: vgic: Rely on RCU protection in vgic_get_lpi() Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 10/23] KVM: arm64: vgic: Ensure the irq refcount is nonzero when taking a ref Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 11/23] KVM: arm64: vgic: Don't acquire the lpi_list_lock in vgic_put_irq() Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 12/23] KVM: arm64: vgic-its: Lazily allocate LPI translation cache Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:32 ` [PATCH v2 13/23] KVM: arm64: vgic-its: Pick cache victim based on usage count Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:37 ` [PATCH v2 14/23] KVM: arm64: vgic-its: Protect cached vgic_irq pointers with RCU Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:39 ` [PATCH v2 15/23] KVM: arm64: vgic-its: Treat the LPI translation cache as an rculist Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:40 ` [PATCH v2 16/23] KVM: arm64: vgic-its: Rely on RCU to protect translation cache reads Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:40 ` [PATCH v2 17/23] KVM: selftests: Align with kernel's GIC definitions Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:40 ` [PATCH v2 18/23] KVM: selftests: Standardise layout of GIC frames Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:41 ` [PATCH v2 19/23] KVM: selftests: Add a minimal library for interacting with an ITS Oliver Upton
2024-02-14 17:32 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-02-14 19:00 ` Oliver Upton
2024-02-14 20:09 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-02-14 20:55 ` Oliver Upton
2024-02-14 21:06 ` Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:41 ` [PATCH v2 20/23] KVM: selftests: Add helper for enabling LPIs on a redistributor Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:42 ` [PATCH v2 21/23] KVM: selftests: Use MPIDR_HWID_BITMASK from cputype.h Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:43 ` [PATCH v2 22/23] KVM: selftests: Hack in support for aligned page allocations Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 9:43 ` [PATCH v2 23/23] KVM: selftests: Add stress test for LPI injection Oliver Upton
2024-02-13 20:12 ` [PATCH v2 00/23] KVM: arm64: Improvements to " Oliver Upton
2024-02-14 17:43 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-02-14 18:40 ` Oliver Upton
2024-02-15 15:37 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-02-15 20:15 ` Oliver Upton
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