From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Subject: Re: Gitbox Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:34:10 -0700 Message-ID: <86r595ef31.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <4238CC86-13A5-4DB8-B8B2-BC3AA2F2DA5E@gmail.com> <4DA654D4.5040104@medialab.com> <4DA65BB6.5080909@medialab.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Joshua Juran , Daniel Searles , Drew Northup , oleganza@gmail.com, Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Searles To: Chris Perkins X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Apr 14 04:34:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QACNx-0004bK-MF for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:34:22 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758664Ab1DNCeN (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:34:13 -0400 Received: from lax-gw09.mailroute.net ([199.89.0.109]:60748 "EHLO mail.mroute.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758660Ab1DNCeM (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:34:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lax-gw09.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9B113857D; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:34:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by lax-gw09.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C1E1384A2; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:34:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7761731ED; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:34:10 -0700 (PDT) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.5.2; tzolkin = 10 Ik; haab = 10 Pop In-Reply-To: <4DA65BB6.5080909@medialab.com> (Chris Perkins's message of "Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:28:06 -0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Perkins writes: >> Which part, then? Name chapter and verse. Chris> Section 2 b). I quoted it in whole in my email: Chris> 2 b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, Chris> that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program Chris> or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to Chris> all third parties under the terms of this License. Broken pre-condition. See the beginning of 2: 2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions: Gitbox is not *modifying*, or creating a work *based on the Program*. Separate copyrights. The rest of your argument thus falls apart. Chris> However, that said, I still think it's a violation of the GPL. That Chris> license lays it out very clearly without much room for Chris> interpretation. Bullcrap. See above. Get your preconditions right, and I'll play along. Chris> You can't make commercial works based on GPL licensed software. Sure you can. RedHat makes money somehow. Don't play the "we must be starving artists for the cause of GPL" on me. Chris> But I will add this, some on our team would very much like to Chris> incorporate Git into one of our own upcoming commercial products. Chris> Code-wise in the same manner as Gitbox has done. But we aren't going to Chris> do this, because the GPL license for Git clearly states that we Chris> cannot. Maybe you need better lawyers then. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion