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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
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	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
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	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 11:47:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871pra6b7k.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DARCZYNPIJVZ.3JJSZ6PSAEMEC@kernel.org> (Benno Lossin's message of "Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:28:44 +0200")

"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:

> On Fri Jun 20, 2025 at 1:29 PM CEST, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:
>>> On Thu Jun 12, 2025 at 3:40 PM CEST, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>>>> +/// A wrapper for kernel parameters.
>>>> +///
>>>> +/// This type is instantiated by the [`module!`] macro when module parameters are
>>>> +/// defined. You should never need to instantiate this type directly.
>>>> +///
>>>> +/// Note: This type is `pub` because it is used by module crates to access
>>>> +/// parameter values.
>>>> +#[repr(transparent)]
>>>> +pub struct ModuleParamAccess<T> {
>>>> +    data: core::cell::UnsafeCell<T>,
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +// SAFETY: We only create shared references to the contents of this container,
>>>> +// so if `T` is `Sync`, so is `ModuleParamAccess`.
>>>> +unsafe impl<T: Sync> Sync for ModuleParamAccess<T> {}
>>>> +
>>>> +impl<T> ModuleParamAccess<T> {
>>>> +    #[doc(hidden)]
>>>> +    pub const fn new(value: T) -> Self {
>>>> +        Self {
>>>> +            data: core::cell::UnsafeCell::new(value),
>>>> +        }
>>>> +    }
>>>> +
>>>> +    /// Get a shared reference to the parameter value.
>>>> +    // Note: When sysfs access to parameters are enabled, we have to pass in a
>>>> +    // held lock guard here.
>>>> +    pub fn get(&self) -> &T {
>>>> +        // SAFETY: As we only support read only parameters with no sysfs
>>>> +        // exposure, the kernel will not touch the parameter data after module
>>>> +        // initialization.
>>>
>>> This should be a type invariant. But I'm having difficulty defining one
>>> that's actually correct: after parsing the parameter, this is written
>>> to, but when is that actually?
>>
>> For built-in modules it is during kernel initialization. For loadable
>> modules, it during module load. No code from the module will execute
>> before parameters are set.
>
> Gotcha and there never ever will be custom code that is executed
> before/during parameter setting (so code aside from code in `kernel`)?

Not with the parameter parsers we provide now. In the case of custom
parsing code, I suppose there is nothing preventing the parsing code
from spinning up a thread that could do stuff while more parameters are
initialized by the kernel.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-23  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-12 13:40 [PATCH v13 0/6] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 1/6] rust: str: add radix prefixed integer parsing functions Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:38   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 11:12     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:17       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:41         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:59   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:20     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:55       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 10:31         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 13:15   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 11:29     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-20 11:52       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-20 12:28       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23  9:44         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 11:48           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 12:37             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-23 13:55               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 14:31             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 15:20               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 11:57                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27  7:57                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27  8:23                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 11:18                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:27                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 13:15                           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 19:02                             ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01  8:43                               ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01  9:05                                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 14:14                                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01 15:43                                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 16:27                                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-01 16:54                                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02  8:30                                           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-02  8:26                                         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-02 10:01                                           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02  7:56                                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23  9:47         ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 3/6] rust: module: use a reference in macros::module::module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:07   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 4/6] rust: module: update the module macro with module parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 21:07   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:31     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 5/6] rust: samples: add a module parameter to the rust_minimal sample Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 19:48   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 11:30   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:12     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:18       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:23         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:31           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 6/6] modules: add rust modules files to MAINTAINERS Andreas Hindborg

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