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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,  Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	 Rakie Kim <rakie.kim@sk.com>,  Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
	 Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	 Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mempolicy: Clarify what zone reclaim means
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2025 09:24:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734a7zxo0.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250801144840.2067350-1-joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com> (Joshua Hahn's message of "Fri, 1 Aug 2025 07:48:39 -0700")

Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 08:59:20 +0800 "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>
>> Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>> > The zone_reclaim_mode API controls the reclaim behavior when a node runs out of
>> > memory. Contrary to its user-facing name, it is internally referred to as
>> > "node_reclaim_mode".
>> >
>> > This can be confusing. But because we cannot change the name of the API since
>> > it has been in place since at least 2.6, let's try to be more explicit about
>> > what the behavior of this API is. 
>> >
>> > Change the description to clarify what zone reclaim entails, and be explicit
>> > about the RECLAIM_ZONE bit, whose purpose has led to some confusion in the
>> > past already [1] [2].
>> >
>> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/1579005573-58923-1-git-send-email-alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com/
>> > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20200626003459.D8E015CA@viggo.jf.intel.com/
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
>> > ---
>> >  include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h | 8 +++++++-
>> >  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h b/include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h
>> > index 1f9bb10d1a47..6c9c9385ff89 100644
>> > --- a/include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h
>> > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h
>> > @@ -66,10 +66,16 @@ enum {
>> >  #define MPOL_F_MORON	(1 << 4) /* Migrate On protnone Reference On Node */
>> >  
>> >  /*
>> > + * Enabling zone reclaim means the page allocator will attempt to fulfill
>> > + * the allocation request on the current node by triggering reclaim and
>> > + * trying to shrink the current node.
>> > + * Fallback allocations on the next candidates in the zonelist are considered
>> > + * zone when reclaim fails to free up enough memory in the current node/zone.
>> > + *
>> >   * These bit locations are exposed in the vm.zone_reclaim_mode sysctl
>> >   * ABI.  New bits are OK, but existing bits can never change.
>> 
>> As far as I know, sysctl isn't considered kernel ABI now.  So, cghane
>> this line too?
>
> Hi Ying, 
>
> Thank you for reviewing this patch!
>
> I didn't know that sysctl isn't considered a kernel ABI. If I understand your
> suggestion correctly, I can rephrase the comment block above to something like this?
>
> - * These bit locations are exposed in the vm.zone_reclaim_mode sysctl
> - * ABI. New bits are OK, but existing bits can never change.
> + * These bit locations are exposed in the vm.zone_reclaim_mode sysctl and
> + * in /proc/sys/vm/zone_reclaim_mode. New bits are OK, but existing bits
> + * can never change.

Because it's not an ABI, I think that we could avoid to say "never".

> Thanks again for your review Ying, I hope you have a good day : -)

Welcome!  You too!

With some trivial tweak, please feel free to add my

Reviewed-by: Huang Ying <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>

in the future version.

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-04  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-31 21:07 [PATCH v2] mempolicy: Clarify what zone reclaim means Joshua Hahn
2025-07-31 22:41 ` SeongJae Park
2025-08-01  9:04   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-01 14:50     ` Joshua Hahn
2025-08-01  0:59 ` Huang, Ying
2025-08-01 14:48   ` Joshua Hahn
2025-08-04  1:24     ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2025-08-04 14:41       ` Joshua Hahn
2025-08-05  1:27         ` Huang, Ying
2025-08-05 20:03           ` Joshua Hahn

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