From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: amit.shah@redhat.com, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Migration compatibility for serial
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:48:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87381q7grj.fsf@neno.neno> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150617121148-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (Michael S. Tsirkin's message of "Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:13:01 +0200")
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:11:48AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 17/06/2015 09:52, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> > > No, please. Upstream QEMU doesn't want to get into judgement about when
>> > > migration quality might be "good enough" that you can drop subsections.
>> > > It's one thing to perfect the .needed functions to make the appearance
>> > > of subsections as unlikely as possible, but adding flags is not
>> > > something we've done so far---and not something at least *I* want to do.
>> >
>> > Not like this, sure. But e.g. patches that force specific fields to
>> > behave in a way consistent with QEMU 2.2, with appropriate
>> > doducmentation would be ok I think.
>>
>> That's not what 2.2 means in "pc-i440fx-2.2". It means "same hardware
>> as 2.2", not "bug-compatible with 2.2".
>>
>> Refining the .needed functions (e.g. see commit bfa7362889) is just
>> that: describing when a subsection is needed. Forcing specific fields
>> to behave in a way consistent with QEMU 2.2 is bug compatibility.
>>
>> Paolo
>
> We do bug-compatible if it's not a big pain, too.
In this case, there is disagreement about what is better:
- correct solution
- bug compatible
We can't have both in this case :-(
Notice that if "both" are 2.2 <improved>, i.e. 2.3 with -M
pc-i440fx-2.2, we also got the correct behaviour. So the matrix is
something like:
Source: 2.2 Destination: 2.2 -> bug compatible 2.2
Source: 2.3 Destination: 2.2 -> breaks if serial is being used, works otherwise
Source: 2.3 Destination: 2.3 with -M pc-i440fx-2.2: works always
So the problem is 2.3 -> 2.2 when serial is being used (notice that just
opening it it is using). That is what we are differing about what is
the right thing to do. As Paolo says, in upstream, we have done in the
past the correct thing, in downstream, it depends.
Notice that adding this patch makes that the three cases are bug
compatible, i.e. there is no way to detect breakage neither a way to fix
the issue (fix without the patch is just upgrade both binaries.
)
Later, Juan.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-17 10:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-16 18:54 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Migration compatibility for serial Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-06-16 20:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 9:09 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-06-17 6:52 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-06-17 6:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 7:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-06-17 7:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 7:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 7:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 8:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 10:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 10:48 ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2015-06-17 10:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-06-17 10:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 10:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-06-17 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 10:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 11:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 11:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-06-17 11:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 11:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 12:07 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-06-17 12:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 14:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 16:34 ` Juan Quintela
2015-06-17 16:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 16:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 11:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 11:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 11:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 11:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 12:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 14:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 16:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 16:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 16:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 9:26 ` Juan Quintela
2015-06-17 10:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 8:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-06-17 8:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 9:38 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
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