From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Rusty Russell" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:25:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738qkdua5.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9VS4CQWmAKBxcPNd4R-MUp1E_JRu9rjwXF-zO-oa6UOg@mail.gmail.com>
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> On 8 August 2013 17:07, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>> It's the same processor. It still starts executing big endian
>> instructions. A magic register value is tweaked and loads/stores are
>> swapped.
>
> I dunno about PPC, but for ARM generally the boot-up state is
> controlled by config signals which a SoC or board can hardwire,
> so you can have a SoC which is configured to start in big-endian
> mode.
>
>> CPU data structures are still read as big endian though.
>
> Do you have an example of what you mean by "CPU data structure"?
MMU tlb hash table. If you grep ldl target-ppc/* you'll see that there
are only a few cases where bswap occurs.
>> The distinction is important in QEMU. ppc64 is still
>> TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN.
>
> Ideally TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN would go away -- it is forcing
> at compile time a setting which is actually a runtime one,
> and a lot of the weirdness here flows from that.
>
>> We still want most stl_phys to treat integers
>> as big endian.
>
> Any stl_phys() should [in an ideal design] be tied to a
> "bus master" which has its own idea of which endianness
> it is. That is, an stl_phys() for a DMA controller model
> ought to use the endianness programmed for the DMA controller,
> not whatever the CPU happens to be using.
We have the DMA API that attempts to do this but maybe we need to
generalize it a bit more...
I think it's pretty true that we need a context and that the context
for, say instruction fetch, is distinct from the context for load/store
instructions.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> -- PMM
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-08 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-08 5:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Virtio support for endian-curious guests Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 14:28 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-08 15:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-08-08 16:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:14 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:25 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-08-08 16:30 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09 2:58 ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 4:39 ` Anton Blanchard
2013-08-09 8:05 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:48 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:24 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09 7:35 ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 7:42 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 7:49 ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 7:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-12 0:28 ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-12 0:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-09 15:15 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09 0:08 ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 7:00 ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:24 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09 6:40 ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-11 23:46 ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] target-ppc: ppc64 targets can be either endian Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] hw/net/virtio-net: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] hw/net/virtio-balloon: use virtio wrappers to access page frame numbers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] hw/block/virtio-blk: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 9:57 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 13:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] hw/scsi/virtio-scsi: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] hw/char/virtio-serial-bus: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] patch virtio-serial-biendian.patch Rusty Russell
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