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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: hpa@zytor.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/22] virtio_pci: use separate notification offsets for each vq.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 20:30:28 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738vjer43.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130324201910.GA31631@redhat.com>

"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 01:22:57PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
>> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
>> > I would like an option for hypervisor to simply say "Do IO
>> > to this fixed address for this VQ". Then virtio can avoid using IO BARs
>> > completely.
>> 
>> It could be done.  AFAICT, this would be an x86-ism, though, which is a
>> little nasty.
>
> Okay, talked to HPA and he suggests a useful extension of my
> or rather Gleb's earlier idea
> (which was accessing mmio from special asm code which puts the value in
> a known predefined register):
> if we make each queue use a different address, then we avoid
> the need to emulate the instruction (because we get GPA in the VMCS),
> and the value can just be ignored.

I had the same thought, but obviously lost it when I re-parsed your
message.

> There's still some overhead (CPU simply seems to take a bit more
> time to handle an EPT violation than an IO access)
> and we need to actually add such code in kvm in host kernel,
> but it sure looks nice since unlike my idea it does not
> need anything special in the guest, and it will just work
> for a physical virtio device if such ever surfaces.

I think a physical virtio device would be a bit weird, but it's a nice
sanity check.

But if we do this, let's drop back to the simpler layout suggested in
the original patch (a u16 offset, and you write the vq index there).

>> @@ -150,7 +153,9 @@ struct virtio_pci_common_cfg {
>>  	__le16 queue_size;	/* read-write, power of 2. */
>>  	__le16 queue_msix_vector;/* read-write */
>>  	__le16 queue_enable;	/* read-write */
>> -	__le16 queue_notify;	/* read-only */
>> +	__le16 unused2;
>> +	__le32 queue_notify_val;/* read-only */
>> +	__le32 queue_notify_off;/* read-only */
>>  	__le64 queue_desc;	/* read-write */
>>  	__le64 queue_avail;	/* read-write */
>>  	__le64 queue_used;	/* read-write */
>
> So how exactly do the offsets mesh with the dual capability?  For IO we
> want to use the same address and get queue from the data, for memory we
> want a per queue address ...

Let's go back a level.  Do we still need I/O bars at all now?  Or can we
say "if you want hundreds of vqs, use mem bars"?

hpa wanted the option to have either, but do we still want that?

Cheers,
Rusty.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-25 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-21  8:29 [PATCH 00/22] New virtio PCI layout Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 01/22] virtio_config: introduce size-based accessors Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 02/22] virtio_config: use " Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 03/22] virtio_config: make transports implement accessors Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  9:09   ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22  0:31     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-22  9:13       ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22 14:43   ` Sjur Brændeland
2013-03-24  4:24     ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-03 15:58       ` Sjur Brændeland
2013-04-02 17:16   ` Pawel Moll
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 04/22] virtio: use u32, not bitmap for struct virtio_device's features Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:00   ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22  0:48     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 05/22] virtio: add support for 64 bit features Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22  0:50     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-22  9:15       ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22 14:50     ` Sjur Brændeland
2013-03-22 20:12       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2013-03-25  8:30         ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-02 17:09   ` Pawel Moll
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 06/22] virtio: move vring structure into struct virtqueue Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 07/22] pci: add pci_iomap_range Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 08/22] virtio-pci: define layout for virtio vendor-specific capabilities Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 09/22] virtio_pci: move old defines to legacy, introduce new structure Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 10/22] virtio_pci: use _LEGACY_ defines in virtio_pci_legacy.c Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 11/22] virtio_pci: don't use the legacy driver if we find the new PCI capabilities Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 12/22] virtio_pci: allow duplicate capabilities Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 14:26     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 14:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 14:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 15:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 15:26             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 15:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 16:04                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 16:11                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 16:15                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 16:26                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 16:32                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 17:07                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:09                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 17:13                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:49                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:54                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 18:01                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-22  0:57                                     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-22  3:17                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-24 13:14                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-24 23:23                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-25  6:53                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-25  6:54                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-25 10:03                                               ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 13/22] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-22  1:02     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-24 13:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 14/22] virtio_pci: layout changes as per hpa's suggestions Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 15/22] virtio_pci: use little endian for config space Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 16/22] virtio_pci: use separate notification offsets for each vq Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 10:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-22  2:52     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-24 14:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-24 20:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-24 23:27         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-25  7:05           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-25 10:00         ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2013-03-26 19:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27  0:07             ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-27  0:22               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-27  2:31                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-27 11:26                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 14:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-27 11:25               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-28  4:50                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-30  3:19                   ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-02 22:51                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-03  6:10                       ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-03 11:22                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-03 14:10                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-03 14:35                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-03 14:35                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-03 17:02                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-04  5:48                           ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-04  8:25                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-05  1:25                               ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 17/22] virtio_pci_legacy: cleanup struct virtio_pci_vq_info Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 18/22] virtio_pci: share structure between legacy and modern Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 19/22] virtio_pci: share interrupt/notify handlers " Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 20/22] virtio_pci: share virtqueue setup/teardown between modern and legacy driver Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 21/22] virtio_pci: simplify common helpers Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 22/22] virtio_pci: fix finalize_features in modern driver Rusty Russell

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