From: Jay Vosburgh <jv@jvosburgh.net>
To: Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>
Cc: Shubham Chakraborty <chakrabortyshubham66@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, kuniyu@google.com,
corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Documentation: sysctl: document net core sysctls
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 13:11:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874687.1776370315@famine> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260413164707.GT469338@kernel.org>
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org> wrote:
>On Thu, Apr 09, 2026 at 11:18:59PM +0530, Shubham Chakraborty wrote:
[...]
>> netdev_budget_usecs
>> ---------------------
>>
>
>The lines above the following hunk are:
>
>netdev_budget_usecs
>---------------------
>
>Maximum number of microseconds in one NAPI polling cycle. Polling
>
>> @@ -297,12 +332,16 @@ Maximum number of microseconds in one NAPI polling cycle. Polling
>> will exit when either netdev_budget_usecs have elapsed during the
>> poll cycle or the number of packets processed reaches netdev_budget.
>>
>> +Default: ``2 * USEC_PER_SEC / HZ`` (2000 when ``HZ`` is 1000)
>> +
>
>Well, that is awkward.
>
>Looking at git history, it seems that this sysctl was added by 7acf8a1e8a28
>("Replace 2 jiffies with sysctl netdev_budget_usecs to enable softirq
>tuning") in 2017. And at that time the unic was us, and the default was 2000 us.
>
>But that was changed by a fix for that commit, a4837980fd9f ("net: revert
>default NAPI poll timeout to 2 jiffies"), in 2020. As a side-effect of
>that commit, the default was changed to what you have documented above,
>and the unit changed to jiffies.
>
>So while what you have is correct it seems nonsensical to me for the unit
>to be jiffies. Because that's not a meaningful unit for users. And because
>the name of the sysctl ends in usecs.
I don't think the units for netdev_budget_usecs are actually
jiffies, even after a4837980fd9f. The default value, for example, is
2000 if HZ is 1000. However, the granularity of the measurement is in
jiffies, via:
static __latent_entropy void net_rx_action(void)
{
struct softnet_data *sd = this_cpu_ptr(&softnet_data);
unsigned long time_limit = jiffies +
usecs_to_jiffies(READ_ONCE(net_hotdata.netdev_budget_usecs));
I'm not sure offhand if usecs_to_jiffies rounds up or down, but
the netdev_budget_usecs looks to be interpreted as usecs.
-J
>But I'm unsure what to do about it. Since changing the unit this would
>represent (another) KABI break.
>
>* Add another knob that shadows this one (But what to call it?)
>* Simply remove this one (KAPI break)
>* Change the unit of this knob (KAPI break)
>
>If the code is left as is, then I think it should be documented that the
>unit is jiffies.
>
>...
>
---
-Jay Vosburgh, jv@jvosburgh.net
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-16 20:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-07 8:32 [PATCH] Documentation: sysctl: document net core sysctls Shubham Chakraborty
2026-04-09 14:19 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-04-09 17:48 ` [PATCH v2] " Shubham Chakraborty
2026-04-13 16:47 ` Simon Horman
2026-04-16 20:11 ` Jay Vosburgh [this message]
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