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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>,
	broonie@kernel.org, tiwai@suse.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com,
	pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com, hdegoede@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 01/17] ALSA: pcm: Introduce MSBITS subformat interface
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 17:38:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874jkrdr49.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67fc99db-baf8-17b0-e7c4-f420676e5c8a@perex.cz>

On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 17:29:47 +0200,
Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> 
> On 22. 08. 23 17:07, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 17:03:02 +0200,
> > Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> >> 
> >> On 11. 08. 23 18:48, Cezary Rojewski wrote:
> >> 
> >>> +#define SNDRV_PCM_SUBFMTBIT_MSBITS_32	_SNDRV_PCM_SUBFMTBIT(MSBITS_32)
> >> 
> >> What was reason to add 32/32 format ? Subformat STD + msbits == 32
> >> should already handle the maximal resolution. Until we do not have 64
> >> bit formats, it seems like an useless extension.
> > 
> > My understanding is to distinguish the cases "we do fully support
> > 32bit" and "we don't care".  But, the end effect is same for both,
> > user-space would handle 32bit in both cases, so this difference won't
> > help much, indeed.
> 
> I don't think that we have a "do not care" situation. The applications
> currently expects to use the maximal msbits for STD subformat. The
> subformat should be used only to refine (downgrade) the resolution on
> the driver / hw side on demand. I would just add only necessary API
> extensions and save one bit for now.

Well, the current behavior (with STD) is to choose whatever 32bit
format the driver supports, and the driver may set a different value
of hw_params.msbits at hw_params.  The explicit MSBITS_32 would
enforce the hw_params.msbits to be 32, otherwise hw_refine would
fail.  So I see a potential difference.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-22 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-11 16:48 [RFC PATCH 00/17] ALSA/ASoC: hda: Address format selection limitations and ambiguity Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 01/17] ALSA: pcm: Introduce MSBITS subformat interface Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 14:35   ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-14 15:04     ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-22 15:03   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-22 15:07     ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-22 15:29       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-22 15:38         ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2023-08-22 19:03           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23  8:11             ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-23  9:10               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23  9:53                 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-23 10:00                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23 10:20                     ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2023-08-23 10:47                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23 11:08                         ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-23 13:42                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23 16:29                             ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2023-08-23 17:42                               ` Kai Vehmanen
2023-08-24  7:31                               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-09-08 14:36                                 ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-09-11  7:35                                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-09-11  8:43                                     ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-09-11 15:45                                       ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-09-12 16:30                                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-09-13  7:44                                           ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-09-13  8:06                                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-22 15:30       ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 02/17] ALSA: pcm: Honor subformat when configuring substream Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 03/17] ALSA: hda: Honor subformat when querying PCMs Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 04/17] ASoC: pcm: Honor subformat when configuring runtime Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 05/17] ALSA: hda: Upgrade stream-format infrastructure Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 14:41   ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-14 14:47     ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 14:59       ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 06/17] ALSA: hda: Switch to new stream-format interface Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 07/17] ALSA: hda/hdmi: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 08/17] ALSA: hda/ca0132: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 09/17] ASoC: codecs: hda: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 10/17] ASoC: codecs: hdac_hda: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 11/17] ASoC: codecs: hdac_hdmi: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 12/17] ASoC: Intel Skylake: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 13/17] ASoC: SOF: Intel: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 18:21   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-08-14 10:51     ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 14:01       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-08-14 15:02         ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 17:02           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 14/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 15/17] ALSA: hda: Drop snd_hdac_calc_stream_format() Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 16/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Unhardcode HDAudio BE DAI drivers description Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 17/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Kill S24_LE in HDAudio streaming Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-21  7:49   ` Amadeusz Sławiński

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