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From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: "Michael Walle" <mwalle@kernel.org>
Cc: "Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	 "Pratyush Yadav" <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	 "Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
	 "Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	 "Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Sean Anderson" <sean.anderson@linux.dev>,
	 "Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	 "Steam Lin" <STLin2@winbond.com>,
	<linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,  <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Explain the MEMLOCK ioctl implementation behaviour
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2025 10:18:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875xb6e5y8.fsf@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DEBQ9IUDZJ7T.33VMFGMNKPEUY@kernel.org> (Michael Walle's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:53:42 +0100")

On 18/11/2025 at 10:53:42 +01, "Michael Walle" <mwalle@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Fri Nov 14, 2025 at 6:53 PM CET, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>> Add comments about how these requests are actually handled in the SPI
>> NOR core. Their behaviour was not entirely clear to me at first, and
>> explaining them in plain English sounds the way to go.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
>> ---
>>  drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c | 8 ++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c b/drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c
>> index 9bc5a356444665ad8824e9e12d679fd551b3e67d..ede03f26de3c65ff53c1cb888c2c43aea268b85a 100644
>> --- a/drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c
>> +++ b/drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c
>> @@ -341,6 +341,14 @@ static int spi_nor_sr_is_locked(struct spi_nor *nor, loff_t ofs, u64 len)
>>  	return spi_nor_is_locked_sr(nor, ofs, len, nor->bouncebuf[0]);
>>  }
>>  
>> +/*
>> + * These ioctls behave according to the following rules:
>> + * ->lock(): Never locks more than what is requested, ie. may lock less
>
> That behavior sounds so wrong... The user requests a region to be
> locked, and it isn't actually locked.

Agreed. I really got puzzled by that.

>> + * ->unlock(): Never unlocks more than what is requested, ie. may unlock less
>
> That seems somewhat sane.
>
> Maybe we should return -EINVAL if ofs or ofs+len aren't at sector
> boundaries. Yeah it's a change in the UAPI, but I'm not sure the
> current behavior is not harmful and misleading.

I would even go further and propose to return -EINVAL whenever the
request is not exactly doable. Being at a block boundary is not enough,
as there are many boundaries we cannot describe with just 4 protection
bits.

But this is somewhat a uAPI change indeed. So in the first place, I will
keep this comment. But if we feel like we should make the uAPI stricter,
it can come on top. Doing this would require a broad acknowledgement.

>> + * -is_locked(): Checks if the region is *fully* locked, returns false otherwise.
>> + *               This feeback may be misleading because users may get an "unlocked"
>> + *               status even though a subpart of the region is effectively locked.
>> + */
>>  static const struct spi_nor_locking_ops spi_nor_sr_locking_ops = {
>>  	.lock = spi_nor_sr_lock,
>>  	.unlock = spi_nor_sr_unlock,
>
> Anyway, as it is how it's currently behaving:
>
> Reviewed-by: Michael Walle <mwalle@kernel.org>

Thanks!
Miquèl

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From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: "Michael Walle" <mwalle@kernel.org>
Cc: "Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	 "Pratyush Yadav" <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	 "Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
	 "Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	 "Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Sean Anderson" <sean.anderson@linux.dev>,
	 "Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	 "Steam Lin" <STLin2@winbond.com>,
	<linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,  <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Explain the MEMLOCK ioctl implementation behaviour
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2025 10:18:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875xb6e5y8.fsf@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DEBQ9IUDZJ7T.33VMFGMNKPEUY@kernel.org> (Michael Walle's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:53:42 +0100")

On 18/11/2025 at 10:53:42 +01, "Michael Walle" <mwalle@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Fri Nov 14, 2025 at 6:53 PM CET, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>> Add comments about how these requests are actually handled in the SPI
>> NOR core. Their behaviour was not entirely clear to me at first, and
>> explaining them in plain English sounds the way to go.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
>> ---
>>  drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c | 8 ++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c b/drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c
>> index 9bc5a356444665ad8824e9e12d679fd551b3e67d..ede03f26de3c65ff53c1cb888c2c43aea268b85a 100644
>> --- a/drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c
>> +++ b/drivers/mtd/spi-nor/swp.c
>> @@ -341,6 +341,14 @@ static int spi_nor_sr_is_locked(struct spi_nor *nor, loff_t ofs, u64 len)
>>  	return spi_nor_is_locked_sr(nor, ofs, len, nor->bouncebuf[0]);
>>  }
>>  
>> +/*
>> + * These ioctls behave according to the following rules:
>> + * ->lock(): Never locks more than what is requested, ie. may lock less
>
> That behavior sounds so wrong... The user requests a region to be
> locked, and it isn't actually locked.

Agreed. I really got puzzled by that.

>> + * ->unlock(): Never unlocks more than what is requested, ie. may unlock less
>
> That seems somewhat sane.
>
> Maybe we should return -EINVAL if ofs or ofs+len aren't at sector
> boundaries. Yeah it's a change in the UAPI, but I'm not sure the
> current behavior is not harmful and misleading.

I would even go further and propose to return -EINVAL whenever the
request is not exactly doable. Being at a block boundary is not enough,
as there are many boundaries we cannot describe with just 4 protection
bits.

But this is somewhat a uAPI change indeed. So in the first place, I will
keep this comment. But if we feel like we should make the uAPI stricter,
it can come on top. Doing this would require a broad acknowledgement.

>> + * -is_locked(): Checks if the region is *fully* locked, returns false otherwise.
>> + *               This feeback may be misleading because users may get an "unlocked"
>> + *               status even though a subpart of the region is effectively locked.
>> + */
>>  static const struct spi_nor_locking_ops spi_nor_sr_locking_ops = {
>>  	.lock = spi_nor_sr_lock,
>>  	.unlock = spi_nor_sr_unlock,
>
> Anyway, as it is how it's currently behaving:
>
> Reviewed-by: Michael Walle <mwalle@kernel.org>

Thanks!
Miquèl

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-19  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14 17:53 [PATCH 00/19] mtd: spi-nor: Enhance software protection Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 01/19] mtd: spi-nor: debugfs: Fix the flags list Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18  7:43   ` Michael Walle
2025-11-18  7:43     ` Michael Walle
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 02/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Improve locking user experience Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18  9:17   ` Michael Walle
2025-11-18  9:17     ` Michael Walle
2025-11-19  9:13     ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-19  9:13       ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 03/19] mtd: spi-nor: Improve opcodes documentation Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18  9:22   ` Michael Walle
2025-11-18  9:22     ` Michael Walle
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 04/19] mtd: spi-nor: debugfs: Align variable access with the rest of the file Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18  9:23   ` Michael Walle
2025-11-18  9:23     ` Michael Walle
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 05/19] mtd: spi-nor: debugfs: Enhance output Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18  9:24   ` Michael Walle
2025-11-18  9:24     ` Michael Walle
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 06/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Explain the MEMLOCK ioctl implementation behaviour Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18  9:53   ` Michael Walle
2025-11-18  9:53     ` Michael Walle
2025-11-19  9:18     ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2025-11-19  9:18       ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 07/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Clarify a comment Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18  9:55   ` Michael Walle
2025-11-18  9:55     ` Michael Walle
2025-11-19  9:19     ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-19  9:19       ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 08/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Use a pointer for SR instead of a single byte Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 09/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Create a helper that writes SR, CR and checks Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 10/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Rename a mask Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 11/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Create a TB intermediate variable Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 12/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Create helpers for building the SR register Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 13/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Simplify checking the locked/unlocked range Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 14/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Cosmetic changes Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 15/19] mtd: spi-nor: debugfs: Add locking support Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18 12:46   ` Michael Walle
2025-11-18 12:46     ` Michael Walle
2025-11-19  9:49     ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-19  9:49       ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-19 10:50       ` Michael Walle
2025-11-19 10:50         ` Michael Walle
2025-11-19 17:43         ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-19 17:43           ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 16/19] mtd: spi-nor: Add steps for testing " Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18 12:24   ` Michael Walle
2025-11-18 12:24     ` Michael Walle
2025-11-19  9:40     ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-19  9:40       ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-19 10:27       ` Michael Walle
2025-11-19 10:27         ` Michael Walle
2025-11-19 17:35         ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-19 17:35           ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 17/19] mtd: spi-nor: swp: Add support for the complement feature Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 18/19] mtd: spi-nor: Add steps for testing locking with CMP Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 19/19] mtd: spi-nor: winbond: Add CMP locking support Miquel Raynal
2025-11-14 17:53   ` Miquel Raynal

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