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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: "Johannes Berg" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"Michał Kazior" <kazikcz@gmail.com>,
	lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com
Cc: kvalo@codeaurora.org,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] add XDP support to mt76x2e/mt76x0e drivers
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2018 21:51:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zwajsnb.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e2d8543c6e4e48d6b6a9f4fde5c811dd4d71243.camel@sipsolutions.net>

Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:

> On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 21:36 +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> Hi Johannes
>> 
>> I think your email can be basically summed up to:
>> 
>> > [ ... ] but really I think it's a can of worms.
>> 
>> ...right? :)
>
> Heh, yeah :)
>
>> I sort of had a feeling it would be, but thank you for spelling out in
>> excruciating detail why that is so.
>
> :-)
>
>> Given this, I think I agree that it's not worth it for now, and we
>> should hold off on adding XDP support until we have 802.3/.11
>> conversion offload working... Which I think is also where you ended
>> up? :)
>
> That case is at least easy, yeah. And it seems kinda likely that we'll
> end up with that in all well-maintained drivers in the relatively near
> future anyway?

Right; you probably know that better than me :)

> BTW, in a sense I still kind of want to add eBPF to the mac80211 ingress
> path, just not in the XDP sense. For example, I had a proposal a while
> ago to add a filter to the monitor mode RX path(s) in eBPF; I still
> think that's useful.
>
> I also think it may be useful to put eBPF programs into per-netdev
> ingress path, in order to e.g. collect statistics, rather than hard-
> coding all kinds of statistics into mac80211.
>
> All of these things I consider absolutely useful and helpful. I like
> eBPF and the flexibility it affords. I just really don't think we should
> call it XDP or let it do similar things to XDP like dropping or
> redirecting frames.

Absolutely; totally on board with that!

-Toke

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-03 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-27 22:21 [RFC 0/5] add XDP support to mt76x2e/mt76x0e drivers Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-27 22:21 ` [RFC 1/5] mac80211: introduce ieee80211_xdp handler Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-27 22:21 ` [RFC 2/5] mac80211: introduce ieee80211_vif_to_netdev routine Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-27 22:21 ` [RFC 3/5] mt76: split mt76_dma_rx_reset in init_rx_reset and complete_rx_reset Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-27 22:21 ` [RFC 4/5] mt76: make mt76x02_vif_init return int Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-27 22:21 ` [RFC 5/5] mt76: add XDP support Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-28 10:15 ` [RFC 0/5] add XDP support to mt76x2e/mt76x0e drivers Kalle Valo
2018-11-28 10:44   ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-28 12:36     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-28 12:53       ` Michał Kazior
2018-11-28 14:19         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-28 13:11       ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-28 14:21         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-28 14:35           ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-28 14:43             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-28 15:35               ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-28 23:12                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-29 12:59                   ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-29 13:29                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-29 13:45                     ` Michał Kazior
2018-11-29 13:53                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-12-03 17:57                         ` Johannes Berg
2018-12-03 19:36                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-12-03 19:41                             ` Johannes Berg
2018-12-03 19:51                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2018-12-03 20:00                               ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-28 15:43       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-11-28 15:43         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-11-29 10:30         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-29 13:27           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-29 13:27             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-29 13:41             ` Michał Kazior
2018-11-29 13:48               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-29 13:58             ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-29 14:06               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-29 14:06                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-11-29 15:45                 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2018-11-29 16:06                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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