From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1HRnBm-0007wT-Gl for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:28:06 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HRnBk-0007wF-CF for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:28:04 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HRnBi-0007w3-KL for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:28:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRnBi-0007w0-G8 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:28:02 -0500 Received: from neonescio.viaisn.org ([82.94.249.43]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HRnAi-0001k7-7T for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:27:00 -0400 Received: from 206-236-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl ([62.45.236.206] helo=dijkstra.dekkers.cx) by neonescio.viaisn.org with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32 CV=0) (Exim 4.50 #1) id 1HRnA8-0006HU-Kq for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:26:24 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=dijkstra.dekkers.cx ident=jeroen) by dijkstra.dekkers.cx with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HRn9m-00059E-6v for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:26:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:26:02 +0100 Message-ID: <876492n6px.wl@dekkers.cx> From: Jeroen Dekkers To: The development of GRUB 2 In-Reply-To: <200703131744.22340.okuji@enbug.org> References: <200703051817.19982.okuji@enbug.org> <200703121845.33472.okuji@enbug.org> <87veh571ya.wl@dekkers.cx> <200703131744.22340.okuji@enbug.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.0.95 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2007 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:28:04 -0000 At Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:44:21 +0100, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:38, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > We should come up with a idea list today, because tomorrow Google will > > begin accepting applications. I think we should just start with > > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-soc.html and remove the project > > I did last summer. I think all the other tasks still need to be > > done. New ideas are welcome too of course. > > I agree. And this needs to be informed to the gnu's list, because what Google > will see is the GNU's list but not ours. > > http://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas.html I can't update the website as long as savannah is down... :-( > > Personally I think one of the important things we have to do is making > > GRUB2 a suitable replacement for GRUB Legacy. This means implementing > > all the features from GRUB Legacy that GRUB2 doesn't have yet, making > > sure that the installer and other tools are all in a good state, > > etc. It's a bit difficult to make a task out of that, but IMHO it's > > time that GRUB2 gets ready for production use. > > I fully agree, but I am afraid that this kind of task should be done by > long-term contributors rather than newcomers, and SoC is not very suitable. > > The term of SoC is really short. IMO, it is long enough to implement some > clear, straightforward and visible feature, but not for vague, complicated > and tiresome work. I agree, but we could give proposals for implementing features that work towards this goal a higher priority than those that don't. E.g. giving CDROM support and the fancy menu interface a higher priority, because that are two things GRUB Legacy already has (in most major distributions at least). And certainly without the fancy menu the major distributions aren't going to switch to GRUB2. Jeroen Dekkers