From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: Arthur Kiyanovski <akiyano@amazon.com>
Cc: "David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Miroslav Lichvar" <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
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"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] timekeeping: Fix draft tracking precision and add feed-forward discipline via vmclock
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 16:12:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877boqtg3g.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <177969636528.22488.1740278196841124440.b4-reply@b4>
Arthur!
On Mon, May 25 2026 at 08:06, Arthur Kiyanovski wrote:
> On 2026-05-24 14:36:35+02:00, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Fri, May 22 2026 at 17:23, David Woodhouse wrote:
> I'm the author of the PHC timestamp attributes series [1] that this
> applies to. Before I spin v4 based on this design, I want to confirm
> three implementation details:
>
> 1. Counter IDs: No stable UAPI clocksource numbering exists today
> (enum clocksource_ids is kernel-internal). I'll define stable constants
> in include/uapi/linux/ptp_clock.h (e.g., PTP_CSID_X86_TSC,
> PTP_CSID_ARM_ARCH) and map internal IDs in the chardev layer.
Either that or we make the clocksource IDs part of UABI, which avoids
back and forth mapping.
> 2. Array sizing: The timestamps array will be fixed at PTP_MAX_SAMPLES (25)
> in the ioctl struct, not a flexible array, to keep
> copy_from_user/copy_to_user bounded.
Why? If userspace allocates an array size of 10k then the kernel will
still only copy out PTP_MAX_SAMPLES entries.
If it allocates two and asks for 10, that's not a kernel problem when
adjacent data is overwritten. That's not any different from read(2) or
other syscalls which do what they are asked to.
> 3. Ioctl numbers: Two separate ioctls (PTP_SYS_OFFSET_EXTENDED_ATTRS and
> PTP_SYS_OFFSET_PRECISE_ATTRS) sharing the same payload struct, matching
> existing PTP convention.
As I said, I have no strong opinion on that and that's a question to be
answered by user space people. I personally would prefer one just
because I'm lazy :)
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-26 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-17 21:25 [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] timekeeping: Fix draft tracking precision and add feed-forward discipline via vmclock David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/8] timekeeping: Remove xtime_remainder from ntp_error accumulation David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/8] timekeeping: Account for clawback adjustment in ntp_error David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 1:59 ` John Stultz
2026-05-19 10:04 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 19:28 ` John Stultz
2026-05-20 10:47 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-20 12:37 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/8] timekeeping: Clamp time_offset delta to prevent infinite tail David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 13:25 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-19 13:31 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 14:17 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-19 15:06 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/8] timekeeping: Add absolute reference for feed-forward clock discipline David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 2:09 ` John Stultz
2026-05-19 11:07 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/8] ptp_vmclock: Feed reference to timekeeping for feed-forward discipline David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/8] timekeeping: Guard against divide-by-zero in timekeeping_adjust David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/8] timekeeping: Drive time_offset skew via per-tick ntp_error transfer David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/8] WIP: kernel/time: Add /dev/vmclock_host miscdev David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 13:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] timekeeping: Fix draft tracking precision and add feed-forward discipline via vmclock Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-19 15:50 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 10:39 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-20 12:21 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-21 6:35 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-21 9:54 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-25 8:08 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-25 9:14 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 7:10 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-26 10:00 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:46 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-27 12:28 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-21 18:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-21 21:06 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-22 8:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-22 10:01 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-22 15:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-22 16:23 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-24 12:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 13:13 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-24 15:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-25 8:06 ` Arthur Kiyanovski
2026-05-25 8:41 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 14:12 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-05-22 16:50 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-24 15:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 15:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 15:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 16:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 16:42 ` David Woodhouse
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