From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
bristot@redhat.com, bsegall@google.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
jstultz@google.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com, longman@redhat.com,
mgorman@suse.de, mingo@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
swood@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
vschneid@redhat.com, will@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/7] locking/rtmutex: Acquire the hb lock via trylock after wait-proxylock.
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 20:59:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cor1cv3.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230915151943.GD6743@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Fri, Sep 15 2023 at 17:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 02:58:35PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> *However* the case at hand is where a waiter is leaving, in this case the race
> means a waiter that is going away is not observed -- which is harmless,
> provided this race is explicitly handled.
>
> This is a somewhat dangerous proposition because the converse race is not
> observing a new waiter, which must absolutely not happen. But since the race is
> valid this cannot be asserted.
Correct. But adding a new waiter requires to hold hb::lock which _IS_
held by the unlocking code when it deals with the outgoing race.
So I'm not too worried about it.
> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
> /*
> * If we failed to acquire the lock (deadlock/signal/timeout), we must
> - * first acquire the hb->lock before removing the lock from the
> - * rt_mutex waitqueue, such that we can keep the hb and rt_mutex wait
> - * lists consistent.
> + * must unwind the above, however we canont lock hb->lock because
> + * rt_mutex already has a waiter enqueued and hb->lock can itself try
> + * and enqueue an rt_waiter through rtlock.
> + *
> + * Doing the cleanup without holding hb->lock can cause inconsistent
> + * state between hb and pi_state, but only in the direction of not
> + * seeing a waiter that is leaving.
> + *
> + * See futex_unlock_pi(), it deals with this inconsistency.
> + *
> + * There be dragons here, since we must deal with the inconsistency on
> + * the way out (here), it is impossible to detect/warn about the race
> + * the other way around (missing an incoming waiter).
> *
> - * In particular; it is important that futex_unlock_pi() can not
> - * observe this inconsistency.
> + * What could possibly go wrong...
If some code in the future tries to enqueue a waiter w/o holding
hb::lock then this corner case will be the least of our worries. There
are tons of other things which will insta go south.
Reviewed-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-15 19:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-08 16:22 [PATCH v3 0/7] locking/rtmutex: Avoid PI state recursion through sched_submit_work() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-08 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] sched: Constrain locks in sched_submit_work() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-20 7:36 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] locking/rtmutex: Avoid unconditional slowpath for DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-20 7:36 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-08 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] sched: Extract __schedule_loop() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-20 7:36 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-08 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] sched: Provide rt_mutex specific scheduler helpers Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-20 7:36 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] locking/rtmutex: Use " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-20 7:36 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-08 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] locking/rtmutex: Add a lockdep assert to catch potential nested blocking Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-20 7:36 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-08 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] locking/rtmutex: Acquire the hb lock via trylock after wait-proxylock Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-09 18:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-11 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 11:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-12 11:17 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-12 11:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 11:25 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-12 11:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 11:28 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-15 12:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-15 13:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-15 15:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-15 18:59 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-09-19 11:03 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-20 7:36 ` [tip: locking/core] futex/pi: Fix recursive rt_mutex waiter state tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-01-15 11:40 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] locking/rtmutex: Acquire the hb lock via trylock after wait-proxylock Jiri Slaby
2024-01-15 11:52 ` Jiri Slaby
2024-01-15 12:16 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-01-15 12:54 ` Jiri Slaby
2024-01-15 15:32 ` Yann Ylavic
2024-01-15 18:33 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-01-16 7:07 ` Jiri Slaby
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