From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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Oliver Upton <oupton@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] KVM: x86: implement KVM_{GET|SET}_TSC_STATE
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 23:34:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dpiu29l.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201215105927.GA3321@fuller.cnet>
On Tue, Dec 15 2020 at 07:59, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:59:59PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> So it's still true that the time advances during live migration brownout;
>> 0.1 seconds is just the final part of the live migration process. But for
>> _live_ migration there is no need to design things according to "people are
>> happy if their clock is off by 0.1 seconds only".
>
> Agree. What would be a good way to fix this?
None of what's proposed is fixing the underlying problem of wreckaging
CLOCK_REALTIME.
Stop proliferating broken behaviour and please answer the questions I
asked several times now:
1) Why has the TSC has to restart at the same value?
2) What is the technical argument that it is correct and acceptable
to wreckage CLOCK_REALTIME by doing #1?
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-15 22:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-03 17:11 [PATCH v2 0/3] RFC: Precise TSC migration Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] KVM: x86: implement KVM_{GET|SET}_TSC_STATE Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-06 16:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-07 12:16 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-07 13:16 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-12-07 17:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-08 9:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-10 11:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-10 12:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-10 12:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-10 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-10 20:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-07 16:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-07 16:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-07 17:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-07 18:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-07 23:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-08 17:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-08 19:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-08 20:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-09 0:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-09 4:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-09 10:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-10 23:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-08 11:24 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-08 9:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07 23:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-07 17:29 ` Oliver Upton
2020-12-08 11:13 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-08 15:57 ` Oliver Upton
2020-12-08 15:58 ` Oliver Upton
2020-12-08 17:10 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-08 16:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-08 17:08 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-10 11:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-10 14:25 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-07 23:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-08 14:50 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-08 16:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-08 16:25 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-08 17:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-08 21:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-08 18:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-08 21:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-08 21:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-10 11:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-10 14:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-10 15:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-10 17:59 ` Oliver Upton
2020-12-10 18:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-10 18:13 ` Oliver Upton
2020-12-10 21:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-10 22:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-10 22:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-10 23:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-11 0:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-08 18:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-08 21:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-09 16:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-09 20:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-10 15:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-10 21:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-11 0:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-11 13:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-11 14:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-11 21:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-11 21:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-12 13:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-15 10:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-15 16:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-15 22:34 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-12-11 13:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-08 17:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] KVM: x86: introduce KVM_X86_QUIRK_TSC_HOST_ACCESS Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-03 17:11 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] kvm/selftests: update tsc_msrs_test to cover KVM_X86_QUIRK_TSC_HOST_ACCESS Maxim Levitsky
2020-12-07 23:16 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] RFC: Precise TSC migration Marcelo Tosatti
2020-12-10 11:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
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