From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Pierrick Bouvier <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, alex.bennee@linaro.org,
stefanha@redhat.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
richard.henderson@linaro.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
jsnow@redhat.com, philmd@linaro.org, berrange@redhat.com,
thuth@redhat.com, Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] qapi: introduce 'runtime_if' for QAPI json
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 06:39:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878qmy5vxc.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250507231442.879619-2-pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org> (Pierrick Bouvier's message of "Wed, 7 May 2025 16:14:31 -0700")
Consensus is to shelve this series, and eliminate target-specific
conditionals instead. But let me scribble down a few notes for
posterity just in case we ever take it off the shelf again.
Pierrick Bouvier <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org> writes:
> This new entry can be used in QAPI json to specify a runtime conditional
> to expose any entry, similar to existing 'if', that applies at compile
> time, thanks to ifdef. The element is always defined in C, but not
> exposed through the schema and visit functions, thus being hidden for a
> QMP consumer.
>
> QAPISchemaIfCond is extended to parse this information. A first version
> was tried duplicating this, but this proved to be much more boilerplate
> than needed to pass information through all function calls.
>
> 'if' and 'runtime_if' can be combined elegantly on a single item,
> allowing to restrict an element to be present based on compile time
> defines, and runtime checks at the same time.
I understand the combination is "and", i.e. both conditions need to be
satisfied.
The syntax change I'd consider elegant (it's subjective!) is *none*.
Instead of
'if': 'CONFIG_DINGS',
'runtime_if': 'target_bums()'
use
'if': ['all': ['CONFIG_DINGS', 'target_bums()']]
Might need semantic restrictions to simplify the implementation.
> Note: This commit only adds parsing of runtime_if, and does not hide
> anything yet.
>
> For review:
>
> - I don't really like "runtime_if" name.
> What would make sense, IMHO, is to rename existing 'if' to 'ifdef',
> and reuse 'if' for 'runtime_if'. Since it requires invasive changes, I
> would prefer to get agreement before wasting time in case you prefer
> any other naming convention. Let me know what you'd like.
>
> - As mentioned in second paragraph, I think our best implementation
> would be to extend existing QAPISchemaIfCond, as it's really
> complicated to extend all call sites if we have another new object.
I figure the alternative is an abstract type with two concrete subtypes,
one for each kind of conditional.
> - No tests/doc added at this time, as I prefer to wait that we decide
> about naming and proposed approach first.
We'd need
* Positive test(s) in tests/qapi-schema/qapi-schema-test.json
* Negative tests similar to the ones with have for 'if'
* Documentation update docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst
> Signed-off-by: Pierrick Bouvier <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-15 4:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-07 23:14 [PATCH 00/13] single-binary: make QAPI generated files common Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 01/13] qapi: introduce 'runtime_if' for QAPI json Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-08 6:53 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-08 20:22 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-15 4:39 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2025-05-15 15:42 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 02/13] qapi/introspect: generate schema as a QObject directly Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 03/13] qobject/qlit: allow to hide dict or list entries Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-08 14:21 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-05-08 20:25 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 04/13] qapi/introspect: hide fields in schema Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 05/13] qapi/commands: register commands conditionally Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 06/13] qapi/visit: hide fields in JSON marshalling Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 07/13] qapi: add access to qemu/target-info.h Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-08 6:57 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 08/13] qemu/target-info: implement missing helpers Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-08 6:40 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-08 20:30 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 09/13] qapi: transform target specific 'if' in runtime checks Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-08 6:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-08 14:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-05-08 20:48 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-10 6:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-13 0:36 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-13 7:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-13 22:52 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-14 7:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-14 16:54 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-14 14:09 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-14 16:50 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 10/13] qapi: add weak stubs for target specific commands Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-08 6:57 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-08 20:33 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 11/13] qapi: make all generated files common Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-08 6:57 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 13/13] [ANNEX] build/qapi: after series Pierrick Bouvier
2025-05-07 23:33 ` [PATCH 00/13] single-binary: make QAPI generated files common Pierrick Bouvier
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