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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	renzo@cs.unibo.it, "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Julia Suvorova" <jusual@mail.ru>
Subject: Is network backend vde worth keeping? (was: Is network backend netmap worth keeping?)
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 20:21:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878spwct7p.fsf_-_@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87imr8l0ti.fsf_-_@dusky.pond.sub.org> (Markus Armbruster's message of "Thu, 08 Aug 2019 06:48:25 +0200")

Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> writes:

> Please excuse the attention-grabbing subject.

Again.

[...]
> So, to make use of QEMU's netmap backend (CONFIG_NETMAP), you have to
> build and install netmap software from sources.  Which pretty much

CONFIG_VDE seems to be similarly cumbersome to build-test.

> ensures nobody uses it.  It was added in commit 58952137b0b (Nov 2013).
[...]

The vde backend was added in commit 8a16d273887 (Jul 2008).  The commit
message blames it on Luca Bigliardi.  Julia (cc'ed) fixed a bug in 2018.
Can't see any other VDE-specific activity since we split net/vde.c off
net.c in 2009.

I found a github repository virtualsquare/vde-2, which seems to be
pertinent.  Recent commits have been merged by
danielinux@users.noreply.github.com, which looks anti-social enough to
me not to bother with a cc.  Further digging coughed up Renzo Davoli
(cc'ed).

[...]
> Why is the QEMU netmap backend worth keeping?
>
> Who is using the netmap backend?
>
> How do they obtain a netmap-enabled QEMU?  Compile it from sources
> themselves?
>
> Would it make sense to have netmap packaged in common Linux distros?

Same questions for the QEMU vde backend.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-07 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-06 15:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/29] Tame a few "touch this, recompile the world" headers Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/29] include: Make headers more self-contained Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:03   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 19:45     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 21:28       ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-08  4:21         ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/29] Include generated QAPI headers less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:50   ` Eric Blake
2019-08-07  9:53   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/29] qapi: Split error.json off common.json Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  9:57   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/29] memory: Fix type of IOMMUMemoryRegionClass member @parent_class Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 10:16     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/29] queue: Drop superfluous #include qemu/atomic.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:21   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 15:40   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/29] trace: Eliminate use of TARGET_FMT_plx Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  9:29   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/29] trace: Do not include qom/cpu.h into generated trace.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  9:32   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-07 10:30     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/29] Include sysemu/reset.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:38   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/29] Include migration/qemu-file-types.h " Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 12:25   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 17:30     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 19:46       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/29] ide: Include hw/ide/internal a bit less outside hw/ide/ Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:40   ` John Snow
2019-08-07 12:29     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 14:56       ` John Snow
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/29] typedefs: Separate incomplete types and function types Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 12:31   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/29] Include hw/irq.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 13:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 21:06     ` Eric Blake
2019-08-08  4:27       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08  5:09         ` Richard Henderson
2019-08-08 11:48         ` Eric Blake
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/29] Clean up inclusion of exec/cpu-common.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:20   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/29] migration: Move the VMStateDescription typedef to typedefs.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:22   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 17:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/29] Include migration/vmstate.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 11:36     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/29] Include exec/memory.h slightly less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:50   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 12:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 12:36       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/29] Include qom/object.h " Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 17:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 18/29] Include hw/hw.h exactly where needed Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 19/29] Include qemu/queue.h slightly less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:57   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 20/29] Include qemu/main-loop.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 13:18   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 13:49     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 21/29] Include hw/qdev-properties.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 22/29] Include hw/boards.h a bit less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:37   ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07 17:26   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 17:57     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-08-07 18:05       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 18:19         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-08-08 11:57           ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 23/29] numa: Don't include hw/boards.h into sysemu/numa.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 24/29] Include sysemu/hostmem.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 25/29] numa: Move remaining NUMA declarations from sysemu.h to numa.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 26/29] Clean up inclusion of sysemu/sysemu.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:36   ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07 15:47   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 14:21       ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:38   ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07  9:28   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-07 13:24   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 13:51     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 17:31   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 20:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 21:05       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08  4:48         ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? (was: [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less) Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08  5:38           ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? Jason Wang
2019-08-08 13:36             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 17:27               ` Vincenzo Maffione
2019-08-08  7:27           ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-08-08 11:52             ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-12 12:32               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-12 12:34                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-09-02 20:50                 ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-09-13 13:04                   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-09-16 14:45                     ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-09-23 11:21                       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-04 13:02                         ` [PATCH] netmap: support git-submodule build otption Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-10-04 13:08                           ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-07 10:49                             ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 11:58                               ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-07 12:35                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 12:39                                   ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-08  9:17                                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-10-08 11:57                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 15:37                                   ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-07 17:53                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 15:44                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08  8:12           ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? (was: [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less) Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-07 18:21           ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2019-10-09  9:13             ` Is network backend vde worth keeping? (was: Is network backend netmap worth keeping?) Thomas Huth
2019-10-11  6:55               ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-10 17:07             ` Julia Suvorova
2019-10-10 17:39             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 28/29] sysemu: Move the VMChangeStateEntry typedef to qemu/typedefs.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:26   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:19     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 29/29] sysemu: Split sysemu/runstate.h off sysemu/sysemu.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  4:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-06 16:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/29] Tame a few "touch this, recompile the world" headers no-reply
2019-08-06 16:56 ` no-reply
2019-08-07 16:32 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:21   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 13:21   ` Markus Armbruster

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