From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>
Cc: "Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Avihai Horon" <avihaih@nvidia.com>,
"Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/17] migration/multifd: Add migration_has_device_state_support()
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2024 12:09:23 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5gon598.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4aaad112-5fdf-4172-bfb4-65dd7880202d@maciej.szmigiero.name>
"Maciej S. Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name> writes:
> On 30.08.2024 20:55, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name> writes:
>>
>>> From: "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <maciej.szmigiero@oracle.com>
>>>
>>> Since device state transfer via multifd channels requires multifd
>>> channels with packets and is currently not compatible with multifd
>>> compression add an appropriate query function so device can learn
>>> whether it can actually make use of it.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Maciej S. Szmigiero <maciej.szmigiero@oracle.com>
>>
>> Reviewed-by: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
>>
>> Out of curiosity, what do you see as a blocker for migrating to a file?
>>
>> We would just need to figure out a mapping from file offset some unit of
>> data to be able to write in parallel like with ram (of which the page
>> offset is mapped to the file offset).
>
> I'm not sure whether there's a point in that since VFIO devices
> just provide a raw device state stream - there's no way to know
> that some buffer is no longer needed because it consisted of
> dirty data that was completely overwritten by a later buffer.
>
> Also, the device type that the code was developed against - a (smart)
> NIC - has so large device state because (more or less) it keeps a lot
> of data about network connections passing / made through it.
>
> It doesn't really make sense to make snapshot of such device for later
> reload since these connections will be long dropped by their remote
> peers by this point.
>
> Such snapshotting might make more sense with GPU VFIO devices though.
>
> If such file migration support is desired at some later point then for
> sure the whole code would need to be carefully re-checked for implicit
> assumptions.
Thanks, let's keep those arguments in mind, maybe we put them in a doc
somewhere so we remember this in the future.
>
> Thanks,
> Maciej
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-03 15:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-27 17:54 [PATCH v2 00/17] Multifd 🔀 device state transfer support with VFIO consumer Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] vfio/migration: Add save_{iterate, complete_precopy}_started trace events Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-05 13:08 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] vfio/migration: Add save_{iterate,complete_precopy}_started " Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:04 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-11 14:50 ` Avihai Horon
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] migration/ram: Add load start trace event Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-28 18:44 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-28 20:21 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] migration/multifd: Zero p->flags before starting filling a packet Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-28 18:50 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-09 15:41 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] thread-pool: Add a DestroyNotify parameter to thread_pool_submit{, _aio)() Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] thread-pool: Implement non-AIO (generic) pool support Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-02 22:07 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-03 12:02 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 14:26 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-03 18:14 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 13:55 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-03 16:54 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 19:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-09 16:45 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 18:38 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 19:12 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 19:16 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 19:24 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] migration: Add save_live_complete_precopy_{begin, end} handlers Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-28 19:03 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] migration: Add save_live_complete_precopy_{begin,end} handlers Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-05 13:45 ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 17:59 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 18:32 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 19:08 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 19:32 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:48 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 19:47 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 20:54 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-20 15:22 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-20 16:08 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 18:05 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] migration: Add qemu_loadvm_load_state_buffer() and its handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 19:05 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-05 14:15 ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:05 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] migration: Add load_finish handler and associated functions Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 19:28 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-05 15:13 ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:05 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 20:03 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:49 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 21:11 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-20 15:23 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-20 16:45 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-26 22:34 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-27 0:53 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-30 19:25 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-30 21:57 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-01 20:41 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-10-01 21:30 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-02 20:11 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-10-02 21:25 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-03 20:34 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-10-03 21:17 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] migration/multifd: Device state transfer support - receive side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 20:22 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-02 20:12 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 14:42 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-03 18:41 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 19:52 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:49 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-05 16:47 ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:05 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-12 8:13 ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-12 13:52 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-19 19:59 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] migration/multifd: Convert multifd_send()::next_channel to atomic Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 18:13 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-02 20:11 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 15:01 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-03 20:04 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-10 14:13 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] migration/multifd: Add an explicit MultiFDSendData destructor Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 13:12 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] migration/multifd: Device state transfer support - send side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-29 0:41 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-29 20:03 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 13:02 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-09 19:40 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:50 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-10 19:48 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-12 18:43 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-13 0:23 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-13 13:21 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-13 14:19 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-13 15:04 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-13 15:22 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-13 18:26 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-17 15:39 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-17 17:07 ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-09-17 17:50 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:51 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 19:49 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 21:17 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-20 15:23 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-20 17:09 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10 16:06 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:49 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 21:18 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] migration/multifd: Add migration_has_device_state_support() Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 18:55 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-02 20:11 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 15:09 ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] migration: Add save_live_complete_precopy_thread handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - receive side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 8:55 ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:06 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-12 8:20 ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-12 8:45 ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] vfio/migration: Add x-migration-multifd-transfer VFIO property Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - send side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 11:41 ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:07 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-12 8:26 ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-12 8:57 ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-08-28 20:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] Multifd 🔀 device state transfer support with VFIO consumer Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-28 21:58 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-29 0:51 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-29 20:02 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-10-11 13:58 ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-10-15 21:12 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
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