From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLxcq-0008PB-E8 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 15:46:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLxcn-0006aH-Ba for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 15:46:04 -0500 Received: from li.iankelling.org ([72.14.176.105]:58734 helo=mail.iankelling.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLxcn-0006a2-3T for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 15:46:01 -0500 References: <87bmjeqn1s.fsf@fsf.org> From: Ian Kelling In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 15:45:59 -0500 Message-ID: <87a7yyql14.fsf@fsf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel archive search was missing some messages but it's fixed now List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Laszlo Ersek Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Laszlo Ersek writes: > Hello Ian, > > On 12/04/17 21:02, Ian Kelling wrote: > >> General thoughts about the archive: I'm looking forward to us upgrading >> to mailman 3 at some point which will bring an improved archive >> interface. > > Do you mean HyperKitty? Yes. > > Will you seek out community feedback on it first? Yes, of course. And I expect the old interface to continue to exist alongside it indefinitely. > >> Of course, you can always download the archive and search it >> on your local computer. > > The one HyperKitty instance that I can readily look at is: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/ > > It only offers the following download options: > > - "Past 30 days (mbox)" > - "This month (mbox)" > - "Entire archive (mbox)" > > Maybe it's configurable site by site, but I find this lacking compared > to: "download whichever month you want, in isolation", which is offered > by mailman2: > > ftp://lists.gnu.org/qemu-devel/ > > If someone needs it all, the latter remains easy to script with wget, > for example. > > (Back to my original point -- judged similarly from the fedora devel > archive, I find HyperKitty hardly usable for normal reading, and I think > it will completely fail for patch series threads and the discussions > under them. HyperKitty is a step towards social media in my opinion, and > as such inappropriate for development lists (again, IMO). I'm happy to > learn otherwise, of course -- are there good counter-examples where > HyperKitty has worked out fine, for archiving email-based patch traffic > and development discussion?) > > NB: my opinion on this likely doesn't matter, as I'm not a heavy > qemu-devel contributor. And you've given some reasons why :) -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org