From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com,
qiaonuohan@cn.fujitsu.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
Amos Kong <akong@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] full introspection support for QMP
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:06:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a9m4j3i7.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D2F1B3.1080903@redhat.com>
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> writes:
> On 07/02/2013 08:51 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Amos Kong <akong@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> Introduces new monitor command to query QMP schema information,
>>> the return data is a nested dict/list, it contains the useful
>>> metadata.
>>>
>>> we can add events definations to qapi-schema.json, then it can
>>> also be queried.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Amos Kong <akong@redhat.com>
>>
>> Maybe I'm being too meta here, but why not just return qapi-schema.json
>> as a string and call it as day?
>
> Because qapi-schema.json requires further parsing. For example, how is
> a client supposed to know that '*foo':'int' means that there is an
> argument named 'foo' but it is optional? The rule of thumb with QMP is
> that if you have to post-process JSON output, then the JSON was not
> designed correctly.
Then we should fix qapi-schema.json.
>> It's JSON already and since QMP is JSON, the client already has a JSON
>> parser. Adding another level of complexity doesn't add much value IMHO.
>
> qapi-schema.json is not quite JSON, in that it has #comments that we'd
> have to strip before we attempted a trick like this.
Pretty easy to filter that out...
> I've also been the one arguing that the additional complexity (an array of
> {"name":"str","type":"str","optional":bool"}) is better for libvirt in
> that the JSON is then well-suited for scanning (it is easier to scan
> through an array where the key is a constant "name", and looking for the
> value that we are interested in, than it is to scan through a dictionary
> where the keys of the dictionary are the names we are interested in).
> That is, the JSON in qapi-schema.json is a nice compact representation
> that works for humans, but may be a bit TOO compact for handling via
> machines.
But adding a bunch of code to do JSON translation just adds a bunch of
additional complexity.
One reasonable compromise would be:
{ "command": "foo", "arguments": { "name": "str", "id": "int" },
"optional": { "bar": "bool" } }
Then libvirt only has to test 'does command["optional"] contain key
"bar"' to test for an optional parameter.
Although to be honest, '*bar' in command['arguments'] is reasonable too
IMHO.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> --
> Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266
> Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-02 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-19 12:24 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] full introspection support for QMP Amos Kong
2013-06-19 12:49 ` Amos Kong
2013-06-20 10:16 ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 16:39 ` Eric Blake
2013-06-21 3:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-02 8:37 ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 14:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-16 10:52 ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 14:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-02 15:28 ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 15:39 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-07-02 16:44 ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 17:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-02 17:06 ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 18:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-04 3:54 ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 18:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-02 20:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-02 20:08 ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 20:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-03 5:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-03 12:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-03 14:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-03 16:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-04 7:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-11 13:37 ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 17:06 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-07-02 17:11 ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 18:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-03 15:08 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-03 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-04 7:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-04 7:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
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