From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, eblake@redhat.com,
dave@treblig.org, eduardo@habkost.net, pbonzini@redhat.com,
hreitz@redhat.com, kwolf@redhat.com, raphael.norwitz@nutanix.com,
yc-core@yandex-team.ru, den-plotnikov@yandex-team.ru,
daniil.tatianin@yandex.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] qapi: introduce CONFIG_READ event
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:01:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkcvksdj.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a2b829-3622-4c5d-a449-73fedfebf7ed@yandex-team.ru> (Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy's message of "Wed, 18 Oct 2023 15:39:52 +0300")
Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@yandex-team.ru> writes:
> On 18.10.23 15:02, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 06:51:41AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:36:10PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>>> x- seems safer for management tool that doesn't know about "unstable" properties..
>>>>>
>>>>> Easy, traditional, and unreliable :)
>>>>
>>>>>> But on the other hand, changing from x- to no-prefix is already
>>>>>> done when the feature is stable, and thouse who use it already
>>>>>> use the latest version of interface, so, removing the prefix is
>>>>>> just extra work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think "x-" is still better for command line use of properties - we
>>>> don't have an API to mark things unstable there, do we?
>>>
>>> Personally I like to see "x-" prefix present *everywhere* there is
>>> an unstable feature, and consider the need to rename when declaring
>>> it stable to be good thing as it sets an easily identifiable line
>>> in the sand and is self-evident to outside observers.
>>>
>>> The self-documenting nature of the "x-" prefer is what makes it most
>>> compelling to me. A patch submission, or command line invokation or
>>> an example QMP command, or a bug report, that exhibit an 'x-' prefix
>>> are an immediate red flag to anyone who sees them.
>> Except when it isn't, like in "x-origin".
>>
>
> Interesting how many such stable x-FOO things we have?
I don't know.
I think the more interesting question is how many *unstable* things we
have that aren't named x-FOO. I'm thinking of stuff that was never
intended to be exposed externally. QOM/qdev properties, mostly. For
extra spiciness, throw in qom-get and especially qom-set.
> Probably we could deprecate and than rename them?
I guess we can if we care :)
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-19 7:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-06 20:20 [PATCH 0/4] vhost-user-blk: live resize additional APIs Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-10-06 20:20 ` [PATCH 1/4] vhost-user-blk: simplify and fix vhost_user_blk_handle_config_change Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-10-23 9:31 ` Raphael Norwitz
2023-10-06 20:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] qapi: introduce device-sync-config Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-10-17 14:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-17 15:32 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-10-18 6:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-06 20:20 ` [PATCH 3/4] qapi: device-sync-config: check runstate Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-10-06 20:20 ` [PATCH 4/4] qapi: introduce CONFIG_READ event Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-10-17 15:00 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-17 15:44 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-10-18 6:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-18 8:51 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-10-18 10:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-18 10:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 10:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-18 12:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-18 12:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-18 14:33 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2023-10-19 7:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-19 7:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-18 12:39 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-10-19 7:01 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
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