From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@yandex-team.ru>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, eblake@redhat.com, eduardo@habkost.net,
pbonzini@redhat.com, marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com,
mst@redhat.com, philmd@linaro.org,
den-plotnikov@yandex-team.ru, antonkuchin@yandex-team.ru,
"reviewer:Incompatible changes" <libvir-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 09:54:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bklwoce9.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y+pFe4bRCqbJJbp0@redhat.com> ("Daniel P. Berrangé"'s message of "Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:13:15 +0000")
Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 05:01:01PM +0300, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>> The device field is redundant, because QOM path always include device
>> ID when this ID exist.
>
> The flipside to that view is that applications configuring QEMU are
> specifying the device ID for -device (CLI) / device_add (QMP) and
> not the QOM path. IOW, the device ID is the more interesting field
> than QOM path, so feels like the wrong one to be dropping.
QOM path is a reliable way to identify a device. Device ID isn't:
devices need not have one. Therefore, dropping the QOM path would be
wrong.
> Is there any real benefit to dropping this ?
The device ID is a trap for the unwary: relying on it is fine until you
run into a scenario where you have to deal with devices lacking IDs.
I suggested to deprecate it in review of "[PATCH v3 14/15] qapi:
introduce DEVICE_ON event" (Message-ID: <873579x67l.fsf@pond.sub.org>).
Quote:
We commonly send both device ID and QOM path, mostly for historical
reasons: the former precede the latter.
There are exceptions, such as query-cpus-fast. Can't say offhand
whether CPUs can be created with IDs.
[...]
I'd be in favour of deprecating and deleting redundant device IDs in QMP
output.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-14 8:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-13 14:00 [PATCH v4 00/16] pci hotplug tracking Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] pci/shpc: set attention led to OFF on reset Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-13 14:16 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-14 9:49 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:31 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] pci/shpc: change shpc_get_status() return type to uint8_t Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:32 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] pci/shpc: shpc_slot_command(): handle PWRONLY -> ENABLED transition Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:33 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] pci/shpc: more generic handle hot-unplug in shpc_slot_command() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:34 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] pci/shpc: pass PCIDevice pointer to shpc_slot_command() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:35 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] pci/shpc: refactor shpc_device_plug_common() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:36 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] pcie: pcie_cap_slot_write_config(): use correct macro Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:37 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] pcie_regs: drop duplicated indicator value macros Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:39 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] pcie: drop unused PCIExpressIndicator Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:40 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] pcie: pcie_cap_slot_enable_power() use correct helper Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:41 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] pcie: introduce pcie_sltctl_powered_off() helper Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:41 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] pcie: set power indicator to off on reset by default Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:42 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] pci: introduce pci_find_the_only_child() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 19:43 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-13 14:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-14 8:54 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2023-02-14 9:25 ` Peter Krempa
2023-02-14 11:14 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-14 11:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-14 11:53 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-14 12:17 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-14 13:56 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-14 16:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-14 11:53 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-14 11:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-14 11:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-14 13:51 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-14 13:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-14 16:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-15 21:00 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-16 0:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] qapi: add HOTPLUG_STATE event Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-13 14:10 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-14 8:56 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-14 9:52 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] qapi: introduce DEVICE_ON event Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-13 14:12 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-14 8:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-14 9:56 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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