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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] i386/kvm: lower requirements for Hyper-V frequency MSRs exposure
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 14:18:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bmfh7eip.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180321121001.GD14983@rkaganb.sw.ru> (Roman Kagan's message of "Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:10:01 +0300")

Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 06:35:00PM +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> Requiring tsc_is_stable_and_known() is too restrictive: even without INVTCS
>> nested Hyper-V-on-KVM enables TSC pages for its guests e.g. when
>> Reenlightenment MSRs are present. Presence of frequency MSRs doesn't mean
>> these frequencies are stable, it just means they're available for reading.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>  target/i386/kvm.c | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> 
>> diff --git a/target/i386/kvm.c b/target/i386/kvm.c
>> index 7d9f9ca0b1..74fc3d3b2c 100644
>> --- a/target/i386/kvm.c
>> +++ b/target/i386/kvm.c
>> @@ -651,7 +651,7 @@ static int hyperv_handle_properties(CPUState *cs)
>>          env->features[FEAT_HYPERV_EAX] |= HV_TIME_REF_COUNT_AVAILABLE;
>>          env->features[FEAT_HYPERV_EAX] |= HV_REFERENCE_TSC_AVAILABLE;
>>  
>> -        if (has_msr_hv_frequencies && tsc_is_stable_and_known(env)) {
>> +        if (has_msr_hv_frequencies && env->tsc_khz) {
>>              env->features[FEAT_HYPERV_EAX] |= HV_ACCESS_FREQUENCY_MSRS;
>>              env->features[FEAT_HYPERV_EDX] |= HV_FREQUENCY_MSRS_AVAILABLE;
>>          }
>
> I suggest that we add a corresponding cpu property here, too.  The guest
> may legitimately rely on these msrs when it sees the support in CPUID,
> and migrating from a kernel with the feature supported (4.14+) to an
> older one will make it crash.
>

This can be arranged, but what happens to people who use these features
today? Assuming they also passed 'invtsc' they have stable TSC page
clocksource already (when Hyper-V role is enabled) but when we start
requesting a new 'hv_frequency' cpu property they'll suddenly lose what
they have...

-- 
  Vitaly

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-21 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-20 17:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] i386/kvm: TSC page clocksource for Hyper-V-on-KVM fixes Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-03-20 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/2] i386/kvm: add support for Hyper-V reenlightenment MSRs Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-03-20 18:32   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-21 11:09     ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-21 13:09     ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-21 11:24   ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-22 17:09   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-03-22 17:39     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-03-20 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] i386/kvm: lower requirements for Hyper-V frequency MSRs exposure Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-03-21 12:10   ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-21 13:18     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2018-03-21 16:57       ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-21 20:19         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-22 13:00           ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-22 13:22             ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-22 13:58               ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-22 18:38                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-23  9:45                   ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-23 19:48                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-26 14:20                       ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-21 15:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-03-21 16:17     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-03-21 17:17       ` Roman Kagan
2018-03-21 20:06         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-21 16:47     ` Roman Kagan

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